No Communion for Obama Supporters

[RedGoneWILD]

I wish I could kiss you

I am going to follow up on this tomorrow, you have me stumped red

cool, let me know

i have said before and I will say it again, if you look at the front lines of the pro-choice movement you will see that it has nothing to do with choice. It has to do with promoting abortion. Read a little about planned parenthood.
Again, i apologize if it came across like I was attacking you but I do think it is funny we can have an entire debate about abortion and those in favor of it, never use the word because it is messy and doesn't sound as PC as pro-choice.

Yeah, women still got abortions when it was illegal. Man, we better take every thing that is illegal and make them legal because people are gonna do it anyway.
I bring up the bible the amount I do because if I bring it up more, i get blasted as being a moron who follows an archaic book and frankly I would rather not hear that all the time.

look, abortion boils down to whether or not you believe a life is a life at conception. If you do, then abortion is murder. Some agree, some do not. Murder isn't an issue of choice. That is why the "pro-choice" label seems a little fake to those who are against abortion. Choice is about what clothes to wear, what school to attend, what job to have. Choice isn't about whether to kill another human being. Like I said, pro-choice people don't see it that way and I know that. Just explaining why it is an issue for me.

i dont take anything personal and certainly not as an attack...i'm not attacking either...no apologies needed

i dont know what to call it...pro-life or pro-choice, thats what i've always heard, so thats what i use...i'm definitely not pro-abortion or pro-murder, but i'm not scared to use the word abortion either. it is what it is...i couldn't be a doctor and perform an abortion, and i wouldn't recommend one either...i honestly wish people didn't get abortions, but they are going to

also, im not talking about making illegal things legal...i was referring to two currently legal things that some people in the country want to ban, but it was probably a bad example...bottom line, i just feel women should have that choice for an abortion, not me...and i'm not willing to take that choice from women, regardless of my personal beliefs...but i've stated, if you're going to do it, then do it...dont' wait 3 months...in fact, go get the morning after pill

but you are right...i dont think people see it as killing a human being...that being a man, woman or child...because it does boil down to whether you believe life begins at conception...personally, i dont... and i dont think that idea makes me a sinner or that i'm somehow pro-abortion either

[thebighurt035]

I think abortions should be up to the women,not up to me.

Do I like the idea? No way,but it is not my body and I will not tell them "not to" get an abortion or "get" an abortion it is up to them..

I don't like the idea of just having abortions because you just flat-out didn't want a baby now (should have thought about that before getting to that point)

If I was a women and I was raped,whether it was just some attacker or incest or my life was in jeopardy having the baby I sure don't want another group of people telling me I can not have an abortion!!!!!

I am pro-choice and look I typed/used the word "abortion" many times and it didn't bother me at all!!!!!

Abortion,abortion,abortion

Sorry abortion isn't a messy word for me to say or type

Just my.07
Thanks
Roy

PS: Forgot to mention how I feel about certian churchs or priests telling me or anyone else that if you voted for Obama (which I did) that you can not/should not take Communion before doing penance for their vote is BS.

[jvansande]

I am going to follow up on this tomorrow, you have me stumped red

as far as if it sin to believe in a womans choice I gice you Mark 7:

20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' 21For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, 22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' "
One may interpret this as saying the mere thought of abortion is an evil thought and is a sin. Mark 7 talks about how people make mans law more important thans Gods teachings and are not following Gods law. SO if in your heart you believe in a womans right to kill a child than you are a sinner. Hope this helps

[gsj68]

I think abortions should be up to the women,not up to me.

and if you where the one being aborted???

[TheTGB]

and if you where the one being aborted???

How would I know I was being aborted?

[jvansande]

How would I know I was being aborted?

You wouldnt, but God would, the woman would. I always say you never truely know how you would feel until you actually have been through it.
We as men will never know. Its one thing to give someome advice, its another to be stuck making the decision.

[gsj68]

How would I know I was being aborted?

you wouldnt,you'd just feel a sharp pain in the back of your head,but it would be nice if someone thought of you before they drilled your brains out

[chljoe]

Actually the insertion of a sharp into the brain stem would be like switching off a light. You would feel no pain. Also, brains are not drilled out.

[thebighurt035]

and if you where the one being aborted???

Well I guess I wouldn't be typing this message in this form now would I?

That would have been "my mothers" CHOICE if she wanted to have an abortion.

I still say it is not up to you or me if someone else wants to do that, it is still LEGAL and should stay that way......


Like I said in my first post,I really do not like the idea of abortions being used as a form of contraception.

So if my wife gets raped and decides to have an abortion you do not think that is right,well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it and my wife and I are entitled to our opinion.
Nice to live in America where we still have most of our freedoms,isn't it?

I would stand behind whatever she decides to do,whether its keeping the baby or aborting the baby,I think it is up to each individual to decide.

Thanks
Roy

[MiniHelmets]

I thought if a church persudes anytype of political influence can lose the so called tax status.Not sure just something i was told.and for the man who lost his brother to suicide and the priest bashed him.You have alot of restraint and i give you alot of credit because I would have told that priest a thing or 2
(I guess suicide is a sin and you can burn in hell,,,,But its ok to run around molesting little boys and hiding behind behind the church) Thats ok though