Gun control

[Aikman_TheGreat]

Try living in rural Oregon. They're aplenty.

What company makes them? All I see around here, and I live in a farming town in Texas, are 3/4 ton and 1 ton diesel.

[hendrikus1967]

i love how throughout this entire debate, the ones opposed to guns, refuse to address the 2 posts dealing with the enviromental and social benefit of hunting.

I am with you on this one. The deer population has grown dramatically over the last few years and I truely believe that the only way to control this (without releasing a large number of coyotes or some other weird measure) is by shooting them. The states do a pretty decent job of issueing permits based on annual counts of the population. I even believe they could issue more tags per hunter here in Iowa! The number of does with 2 faunts I have seen this year and previous years is just astonishing!
I am not a hunter and do believe in a lot stricter gun control (limit the number of fire arms per person, kind of fire arms etc) but hunting has so many benefits that it should not be banned!!

[Aikman_TheGreat]

O yeah, and at least hunting give the animal a chance to run away or something. Try going to a slaughter house and see how they kill the animals.

[mintman2]

What company makes them? All I see around here, and I live in a farming town in Texas, are 3/4 ton and 1 ton diesel.

Hmmmmm, asking for facts to support a statement ..........this should be interesting.....I can't wait

[Yanksfan396]

What company makes them? All I see around here, and I live in a farming town in Texas, are 3/4 ton and 1 ton diesel.

It has been proven that half-ton diesels are "wasted" the most. 3/4 ton and 1 tons are used more productively, which is why I used the 1/2 example. Why are you directing the discussion to the weight of trucks?

[Aikman_TheGreat]

I've just never heard of a 1/2 ton diesel, I was just curious. I'm not trying to say your statement was wrong. I got off-topic. My bad.

[Yanksfan396]

I've just never heard of a 1/2 ton diesel, I was just curious. I'm not trying to say your statement was wrong. I got off-topic. My bad.

It's fine. Hell, I could even be wrong, maybe it's 3/4, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading 1/2. I live in a town where everyone wears cowboy hats and drives these things for leisure only. You can imagine the turnout at the Obama rally here... it was very easy to get in.

[ensbergcollector]

I think any use of guns is wrong. Period. What's nasty is the fact that, because of the pollution of guns, peolple sometimes have to use them. In this instance, however, I believe that evolution would have worked it out. Each species of animal is on this earth for one reason: because they survived. We can do so without guns. I have a very rare view when it comes to these matters, though.

wow. i said I was done and I am. the fact that you are ok with children being killed and we were wrong for stepping in tells me that I need to bow out of this conversation.

[Aikman_TheGreat]

It's fine. I live in a town where everyone wears cowboy hats and drives these things for leisure only. You can imagine the turnout at the Obama rally here... it was very easy to get in.

Yeah there are a ton of diesels here. I'm actually getting one in january. Try hauling 1000 gallons of water plus the weight of the trailer (totals about 10,500 lbs) with a half-ton gas. Not easy.

[Aikman_TheGreat]

wow. i said I was done and I am. the fact that you are ok with children being killed and we were wrong for stepping in tells me that I need to bow out of this conversation.

We need to do whatever it takes to protect our children, and ourselves. If that means guns then so be it.