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02-26-2005, 06:06 PM #11
you know... i was thinking about this topic and decided i was going to try something.. i have rookies that are numbered to 1500... on one auction i am going to make up some way it is a 1/1 and on the other one i am going to list it regular.. just to see if it truly does make more people bid on it opr if it is wasting to time of everyone who does it... they will end at the same time and everything
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02-26-2005, 06:46 PM #12
Originally Posted by haybierman
Sellers do this to get as much money as possible.
If you had a card and said that it's in average condition, do you think anyone will bid? If they do, do you think the price would be high?
Originally Posted by haybierman
If you ever do the math on what you pay out in
1. Ebay listing fee ($0.25 at the minimum)
2. final value fee
3. Paypal initial fee ($0.30 per transaction)
4. Paypal final value fee
it's outrageous the amount of money you lose.
If you sell 2-3 items a month, it's probably no bid deal, but if you're doing 50+ deals a month, it's a HUGE LOSS OF MONEY.
I am an Ebay seller, with 211 ratings (and many more where folks don't give ratings), and I know firsthand how costly it would be if I were to use Paypal. I only do so when dealing with overseas bidders. Otherwise, I am patient with personal checks and money orders.
The point is to MAXIMIZE your profits.
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02-26-2005, 06:56 PM #13
I had an equation for the cost PayPal and ebay took out of your profits. If P is your sell price.
If you use PayPal
Real profit= P - (.65 +.05 (if BIN) +.35 (if Gallery) +8.59%P (which is P * .0859) )
The fees come out to quite a lot. Even though I use PayPal, sometimes the fees make you want to stop.
Regards,
Mike
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02-26-2005, 07:36 PM #14
I lose $80 a week on average to paypal. Like ebay wasn't getting rich enough off the listing and final value fees they charge me.
I still think its a conflict of interest for ebay to own paypal. They want people to use paypal so they can make more money, so they give a special icon for it. That to me is wrong, no need for an icon or special search for paypal accepted items. Just another way ebay has screwed the little guy.
So all in all i'm screwed if I accept paypal and i'm screwed if I don't.
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02-26-2005, 07:53 PM #15
On the topic of calling everything a "true 1/1" I've seen someone post a card that was #'d 36/100 and the players number was 12. The guy called it a 1/1 because it was his number tripled. If that is a 1/1 then almost every card with a serial number on it. So that means that a Eric Chavez 2004 Playoff Prestige Xtra Bases Purple #'d 60/150 I have is a "true 1/1" because it is 20 timeswhat his number is. So does anyone want this, because it is a 1/1 so its gotta be worth at least $100. LOL (yea that makes sense, don't it)
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03-01-2005, 11:11 AM #16
Originally Posted by cox_rox1025
These guys run on the theory that in a numbered set there is only 1 card numbered 1/100, 2/100, 3/100, hence they are all 1/1. It is a scam, but a fool and his money are soon parted.
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03-01-2005, 11:22 AM #17
I don't think eBay and PayPal have screwed the little guy, on the contrary I think they have empowered the little guy. Where else, within a few minutes of registration, can an individual have access to a multimillion strong marketplace of buyers? PayPal is also empowering because it let's individuals accept credit card payments and provides a level of trust to the buyer. I'm certainly more comfortable sending payment through PayPal when I win an auction than I am sending a money order in the mail. With the money order I have zero protection.
So I wouldn't think about it as losing $80 a month to PayPal but gaining the few hundred dollars you earned sellling your goods because of the service that eBay and PayPal offer. Because with the exception of Naxcom (which really is a completely different kind of marketplace) where else are you going to sell your cards to such a large and active user base? And for this service I am more than willing to pay the fees.
That being said I do acknowledge that PayPal and eBay fees are not that well suited to the microsales/micropayments category that $.99 card sales fall into. And I think this contributes to overstated shipping charges, that are used to cover these fees.
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03-01-2005, 11:36 AM #18
I agree with most of your points. I have stopped taking Paypal since they tried to screwed me out of money. My auctions say ship to USA and no other countries. A guy from Canada bids and wins. I ask him for a USA addy to ship to. He ignores me and Paypals the funds. He doesnt bother to add extra money for shipping or tracking. I decide to ship anyways. BIG MISTAKE!!! He says he didnt get the card and files with Paypal. They want a tracking # which I dont have since he didnt pay for it. They freeze my account since I dont keep any $$ in it, they cant refund him. I dont know if he got the card or not. It could be sitting in Canadian Customs for all I know. GOOD BYE PAYPAL.
I am now in the process of listing my entire inventory on Naxcom. No listing fees, only fees when the card sells. No deadbeat bidders. No BS. I am only listing a small amount of cards on ebay each week. My ebay bill was about $110 per month. Last month is was $12.
I also have over 700 cards on beckett buy/sell area. Totally free to sell their.
Good Luck, John
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03-01-2005, 11:48 AM #19
good to see someone else using naxcom.. i used to use beckett but too much BS on there.. no one actually pays for their items and its more of a process than its worth. I love naxcom because you can list something and forget about it until you get an email saying it has sold
Mitch
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03-01-2005, 12:46 PM #20
Yeah I just started using Naxcom too. I just wish the seller would get an email regardless of the buy offer I put in, because otherwise it may take forever for the seller to get around to looking at it, even if it is a reasonable offer, albeit less than the 75% required to have an email automatically sent to the seller. Unfortunately Naxcom still doesn't have the selection that eBay does.
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