Worst Beckett BV Discrepancies

[jbudny]

Pretty much any of Irbe's memorabilia go far higher than BV. One of the supposedly $20.00 All-star jerseys of Irbe sold for $110.00, just over a year ago.

Not to mention, Stamkos seems to be selling at or above BV now.

The tough part is explaining to traders that sometimes cards they want go far above, or far below BV.

any rare irbe GU'ed sell like hot cakes on ebay...seems like their are a lot of Irbe collectors with deep wallets

[jbudny]

my favorite is the 08-09 SP Authentic Future Watch Autos /999 of Filatov, Bailey and Sutter

Tell me about it. They only book Filatov for $60. I got mine when it was first redeemed for $70ish dlvd. Thats the cheapest the card has ever sold. It always brings in $100+ and I've seen some finish in the $130 range.

I've been trying to move the card for some time now but I never get offered anything to make it worth moving.

It's frustrating with so many people fixed on beckett prices. I stopped using beckett a long time ago and focus on SV from closed ebay auctions. I have a very hard time working out trades with people due to them being fixed on beckett. It's frustrating..

[SkyFire47]

wow...all this talk and from people who supposedly don't use the price guides anymore. while i don't doubt beckett is waaaayyyy off in ALOT of discrepancies, here are a couple reasons for prices the way they are:

-THEY RARELY UPDATE OLDER SETS after initial pricing.
-they only update guys like Crosby and Ovechkin. that's why the rest of the guys in the sets are inflated in numbers and priced higher
-they have local guys that report sales to them as well. not just ebay. if a dealer in Montreal sells a Carey Price RC to someone in Montreal and reports it to beckett, you'd better believe he sold it for more than it'll go on ebay.
-some higher #'ed parallels do sell for more than the lower #'ed parallels. it's bass-ackwards but it's true. for whatever reason (held back by UD, released only via replacements, etc..) it's the same as a base RC being worth more than a limited parallel of a RC. it happens.

and to the OP, Lundqvist and Phaneuf have consistently held the highest values in 05-06 releases after Crosby and Ovechkin. Phaneuf being traded to Toronto only gets him MORE hobby love. and it isn't Lundqvist's fault the Rangers didn't make the playoffs. it's not up to him to score goals. he's consistently tops in the league despite being on a low scoring team.

[RGM81]

i know that staal is in pittsburgh so teaming with crosby - (card value up) and kopitar plays in la (so beckett doesn't give a damn )

id like to start another debate

benoit pouliot (montreal) vs guillaume latendresse (minnesota)

when they both star in 06-07 , latendresse was listed higher than pouliot (even if pouliot was more pushed than latendresse , due to his chl rookie award) , but not that pouliot is in montreal i wouldn't be surprised that his value goes the same that latendresse if not even higher

the moral is :
you play in a original six or pittsburgh or washington : card value up
you play elsewhere : we dont give a damn

Very true about Gui! - he was pretty hotly collected for a while in Montreal but tailed off significantly starting in 08-09. Now that he's been traded, even if he does really well in Minnesota, I can't see his values corroborating with actual sales.

Pouliot...I don't know how many folks have jumped on his bandwagon. I did a big trade at the time of the deal where I swapped all my Latendresse stuff straight-across for Pouliot stuff. I was happy to do it since it lets me dump off a former Hab in return for a current Hab. But unless Benny gets his act together his stuff isn't going to increase dramatically at all.

[Wildforcup10]

Beckett sucks and we all know it. I do not read beckett anymore and have not in the last few years!

[JHEYKID]

In the Staal vs. Kopitar thing, I view Kopitar as a far superior player. Staal may win a Selke but Kopitar could win an Art Ross. Staal is from Canada however and plays for arguably one of the top 3 most followed teams in the NHL. He gets interest due to his family situation as well. Kopitar is a better player, but more people collect Staal so I can understand why he is worth more. If everything was based on skill no one would collect the likes of Lars Eller, Carey Price, J. Staal, M-A Fleury etc. and Datsyuk, Halak, Kopitar, Dionne, Beliveau, Sedin would be pure hobby gold!

[xelloss1012]

Throughout the years for the main UD set, YGs and Rookie Threads/Materials usually scale at same/similar ratio where the RC GU is always less than the YG RC. However, that balance is broken by the worst doctoring ever.

In the 05-06 set, they decided to double all of the Rookie Threads BV values except for Crosby and Ovechkin. I have older BV data from February 2010 and from 2009 that shows no increase in value until recently.

Beckett screwed up on several GU BVs relating to multi-player swatches involving Crosby and somehow accidentally devaluing it to less than half value.

And about sets not being updated after the first month or two after release, it is so true. The initial upper price becomes the high BV, and the lower price tends to become the benchmark for future cash sales (40-50% of high, depending if it's an auto or not), and non-SP inserts tend to devalue the most (70-75% if they are not extremely common and not very rare).

wow...all this talk and from people who supposedly don't use the price guides anymore. while i don't doubt beckett is waaaayyyy off in ALOT of discrepancies, here are a couple reasons for prices the way they are:

-THEY RARELY UPDATE OLDER SETS after initial pricing.
-they only update guys like Crosby and Ovechkin. that's why the rest of the guys in the sets are inflated in numbers and priced higher
-they have local guys that report sales to them as well. not just ebay. if a dealer in Montreal sells a Carey Price RC to someone in Montreal and reports it to beckett, you'd better believe he sold it for more than it'll go on ebay.
-some higher #'ed parallels do sell for more than the lower #'ed parallels. it's bass-ackwards but it's true. for whatever reason (held back by UD, released only via replacements, etc..) it's the same as a base RC being worth more than a limited parallel of a RC. it happens.

and to the OP, Lundqvist and Phaneuf have consistently held the highest values in 05-06 releases after Crosby and Ovechkin. Phaneuf being traded to Toronto only gets him MORE hobby love. and it isn't Lundqvist's fault the Rangers didn't make the playoffs. it's not up to him to score goals. he's consistently tops in the league despite being on a low scoring team.

[Jaso1199]

I personally hate using beckett, and i try to avoid it if all possible. Ebay completed listings and recent online trading site sales are the way to go.

[wolf1bh]

gilbert brule. i havent checked lately but for years they had his 05 ice and cup cards at like 250-300 bucks. for a guy who's scored over 10 goals once?

[ibanezplayer409]

beckett pricing is off on alot of things. it seems like beckett uses a totally different method for there pricing. Like mentioned in this thread about some players, they may be booked at $60, but will sell on ebay for $130. but on the flip side, you can see cards that are booked at $100 and sell for $40-50 or lower.

one thing i did notice about beckett is when chicago won the cup, there cards did go up in value. in my opinion, that makes sense. but using the example of the 05-06 rookies, its totally backwards. crosby wins a cup and his cards are still lower value than phaneuf who was simply just traded to a differnet team. maybe the buzz of him being traded "raised" his value for beckett pricing? idk...