Mass Immigration - Who Does it Help?

[tpeichel]

You are never going to get immigrants to proscribe to the Protestant White past behaviour of US Citizens based on an English Speaking Anglo-Saxon origin. It's just not feasible.

Celebrate America and it's diversity, don't demand assimilation based on previous white lifestyle..

New citizens pledge to support and defend the original white Protestant ideals the Founders layed out in the Constitution. However, when you have lived under socialist type governments your whole life, you tend to want the same type of government as evidenced by Latino support for progressive politicians and policies.

It's no mistake that President Obama has proclaimed the desire to change the Constitution from a document restricting what the Federal Government can do to a document that enshrines what the Government must provide.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrode...edistribution/

“We still suffer from not having a Constitution that guarantees its citizens economic rights.” By positive economic rights, Obama means government protection against individual economic failures, such as low incomes, unemployment, poverty, lack of health care, and the like. Obama characterizes the Constitution as “a charter of negative liberties,” which “says what the states can’t do to you (and) what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf.” (Ask not what you can do for your country but what your country can do for you, to paraphrase John F. Kennedy). Obama regrets that the Constitution places “essential constraints” on the government’s ability to provide positive economic rights and that “we have not broken free” of these Constitutional impediments. Obama views the absence of positive economic liberties that the government must supply as a flaw in the Constitution that must be corrected as part of a liberal political agenda.


This is a socialist mentality and we are letting people into the country that will vote to continue us on the path from a country focused on individual liberty and freedom to one where power is centralized in Washington, D.C.

If you like how things have gone under the leadership of President Obama, then you are probably thrilled with the future outlook of America. Many of us are not.

I am against mass immigration because it mostly allows in people that will support an agenda that alters the true meaning of the constitution. I oppose it for economic reasons as we can't employ all of the people who are currently here and let in a majority of low skilled workers who will be an overall drain on the economy rather than an asset. And finally, I oppose it because many of the immigrants come from uncivilized societies. (Of course, not every individual is going to be uncivilized, but there is no mechanism to screen them as evidenced by a system that allowed in the Boston Bombers.)

[centrehice]

You wouldn't utter a word if all the immigrants were WASPs. Your past posts more than adequately tell us that.

[Wickabee]

How can anyone take "progressive" and make it a bad thing?

If you're not moving forward you're moving backward.

[tpeichel]

Can you imagine a football game in America where the referee stabs a player and then the fans grab the ref, cut off his limbs and his head then display his head on a spike?

It sucks when reality is racist.

A soccer referee in Brazil was gruesomely quartered and beheaded after he fatally stabbed a player on the field during a match. The match took place June 30 at Pius XII stadium in Maranhao, northeastern Brazil.

According to Correio24horas, 30-year-old player Josenir dos Santos Abreu approached the 20-year-old referee, Octavio da Silva Catanhede Jordan, to argue a call.The two couldn't come to terms so Catanhede Jordan told the player to leave the field. Santos Abreu refused and the argument turned heated when the referee allegedly pulled out a pocket knife and stabbed Santos Abreu multiple times.

The player died en route to the hospital. Fans outraged by the stabbing - believed to be the player's friends and family - stormed the pitch and cornered Catanhede Jordan. The mob showed no mercy as they quartered and decapitated the referee and then placed his head on a stake.

Then there is the latest from Nigeria:

Islamic militants attacked a boarding school before dawn Saturday, dousing a dormitory in fuel and lighting it ablaze as students slept, survivors said. At least 30 people were killed in the deadliest attack yet on schools in Nigeria's embattled northeast.

Authorities blamed the violence on Boko Haram, a radical group whose name means "Western education is sacrilege." The militants have been behind a series of recent attacks on schools in the region, including one in which gunmen opened fire on children taking exams in a classroom.

[mrveggieman]

Can you imagine a football game in America where the referee stabs a player and then the fans grab the ref, cut off his limbs and his head then display his head on a spike?

It sucks when reality is racist.

A soccer referee in Brazil was gruesomely quartered and beheaded after he fatally stabbed a player on the field during a match. The match took place June 30 at Pius XII stadium in Maranhao, northeastern Brazil.

According to Correio24horas, 30-year-old player Josenir dos Santos Abreu approached the 20-year-old referee, Octavio da Silva Catanhede Jordan, to argue a call.The two couldn't come to terms so Catanhede Jordan told the player to leave the field. Santos Abreu refused and the argument turned heated when the referee allegedly pulled out a pocket knife and stabbed Santos Abreu multiple times.

The player died en route to the hospital. Fans outraged by the stabbing - believed to be the player's friends and family - stormed the pitch and cornered Catanhede Jordan. The mob showed no mercy as they quartered and decapitated the referee and then placed his head on a stake.

Then there is the latest from Nigeria:

Islamic militants attacked a boarding school before dawn Saturday, dousing a dormitory in fuel and lighting it ablaze as students slept, survivors said. At least 30 people were killed in the deadliest attack yet on schools in Nigeria's embattled northeast.

Authorities blamed the violence on Boko Haram, a radical group whose name means "Western education is sacrilege." The militants have been behind a series of recent attacks on schools in the region, including one in which gunmen opened fire on children taking exams in a classroom.

So you are taking the actions of a couple fanatical loons and blaming an entire population of honest people. Typical conservative behavior.

[Wickabee]

Well I must say I am amazed. You look into it, honestly and fully and with no bias, and proved white violence doesn't exist.

I'm assuming you're saying 2 beats 0 right?

[tpeichel]

So you are taking the actions of a couple fanatical loons and blaming an entire population of honest people. Typical conservative behavior.

Nope. It is reality. Here are murder rates to help you out. Africa, Central America and South America have some of the highest murder rates in the world. That's a pretty good indication that you are living in a barbaric and uncivilized society, no?


The UNODC made a study in 2012 that includes most countries of the world. The following lists show only the most recent data. Rates are calculated per 100,000 inhabitants. Intentional homicide in this case is defined as unlawful death purposefully inflicted on a person by another person.

By subregion

UNODC murder rates most recent year
Subregion	Rate	Count	Region
Eastern Africa	21.9	69,344	Africa
Middle Africa	20.8	25,330	Africa
Northern Africa	5.9	12,276	Africa
Southern Africa	30.5	17,484	Africa
Western Africa	15.4	44,671	Africa
Caribbean	16.9	7,001	Americas
Central America	28.5	44,997	Americas
Northern America	3.9	13,558	Americas
South America	20.0	79,039	Americas
Central Asia	6.1	3,667	Asia
Eastern Asia	1.3	19,828	Asia
South-Eastern Asia	6.0	34,787	Asia
Southern Asia	3.8	63,102	Asia
Western Asia	2.6	5,736	Asia
Eastern Europe	6.4	19,072	Europe
Northern Europe	1.5	1,432	Europe
Southern Europe	1.4	1,669	Europe
Western Europe	1.0	1,852	Europe
Australasia	1.0	268	Oceania
Melanesia	11.1	898	Oceania
Micronesia	2.5	10	Oceania
Polynesia	0.1	3	Oceania

[centrehice]

The Caribbean murder statistic is misleading. 75% of all those murders are in Jamaica, the other 13% in Haiti and scattered very remotely is the last 7% amongst another 35 Island countries.

I don't have the statistics for Cuba, but it's nowhere near the USA murder rate per capita.

Jamaica and Haiti aside the Caribbean is much safer than anywhere in the USA.

[tpeichel]

The Caribbean murder statistic is misleading. 75% of all those murders are in Jamaica, the other 13% in Haiti and scattered very remotely is the last 7% amongst another 35 Island countries.

I don't have the statistics for Cuba, but it's nowhere near the USA murder rate per capita.

Jamaica and Haiti aside the Caribbean is much safer than anywhere in the USA.

You are correct on an absolute basis, but the per capita murder rates are overall higher than North America.

Anguilla	6.8	1	Americas	Caribbean
Antigua and Barbuda	6.8	6	Americas	Caribbean
Bahamas	27.4	94	Americas	Caribbean
Barbados	11.3	31	Americas	Caribbean
British Virgin Islands	8.6	2	Americas	Caribbean
Cayman Islands	8.4	5	Americas	Caribbean
Cuba	5.0	563	Americas	Caribbean
Dominica	22.1	15	Americas	Caribbean
Dominican Republic	25.0	2,513	Americas	Caribbean
Grenada	11.5	12	Americas	Caribbean
Guadeloupe	7.0	32	Americas	Caribbean
Haiti	6.9	689	Americas	Caribbean
Jamaica	40.9	1,125	Americas	Caribbean
Martinique	4.2	17	Americas	Caribbean
Montserrat	19.7	1	Americas	Caribbean
Puerto Rico	26.2	983	Americas	Caribbean
Saint Kitts and Nevis	38.2	20	Americas	Caribbean
Saint Lucia	25.2	44	Americas	Caribbean
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines	22.9	25	Americas	Caribbean
Trinidad and Tobago	35.2	472	Americas	Caribbean
Turks and Caicos Islands	8.7	3	Americas	Caribbean
U.S. Virgin Islands	39.2	43	Americas	Caribbean

[centrehice]

Half of the Jamaican murder figure each year are policemen. The most dangerous profession in the World, a Policeman in Jamaica.