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    Net migration to the USA in the 1st 6 months of this year from anywhere in the World is zero, so just open the cupboard and put your soapbox away for the time being until it's needed whenever facts occur.

    Irrelevant when they are proposing amnesty for over 10 million illegal immigrants with an expected increase of tens of millions.

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    Do you want to fill the prisons or the federal coffers with Income Tax money?, that is the decision. Right now you are filling the prisons, and spending upwards of 175 Million in deportation costs.

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    Do you want to fill the prisons or the federal coffers with Income Tax money?, that is the decision. Right now you are filling the prisons, and spending upwards of 175 Million in deportation costs.

    True, but when privatized prisons make so much money for your favorite party's biggest supporters, it's tough to look past that and see reason.

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    Thanks, but totally unnecessary, unlike an actual definition of "uncivilized country," which is completely necessary to take any of this seriously and not be forced to think it's just racist ranting.

    I'm not sure how to help you because the difference between civilized and uncivilized is pretty easy. Does this seem civilized or uncivilized to you?
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2...murder-capitalLatin America is riddled with crime, and no place is more violent than Honduras. It has just 8 million people, but with as many as 20 people killed there every day, it now has the highest murder rate in the world.

    It would be easy to blame drug trafficking. Honduras and its Central American neighbors have long served as a favored smuggling corridor for South American cocaine headed north to the U.S.

    But there are a number of factors that have contributed to Honduras' out-of-control killings. It involves not only geography but gangs and a government teetering on the edge of collapse.


    In this violent country, the most violent city is San Pedro Sula, where more than 1,200 people were killed last year.


    The outskirts of town are the roughest part. We were told that the safest time to drive there is in the early morning when the gangs are still asleep.
    As we enter the neighborhood of Rivera Hernandez, our driver tells us we should roll down our tinted windows so that people can see us. If they can't get a glimpse of us, it will make them more suspicious.
    He also crosses himself a couple of times as we enter the colonia, or neighborhood.
    Gangs fight viciously for territory here. Caught in the middle are residents who pay them so-called taxes, for everything from a safe bus ride to running a small shop.

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    Civilized or uncivilized?


    A teacher has been tortured and beheaded by her neighbours in a Papua New Guinea village because they say she was a witch responsible for the death of a sick villager.

    The angry mob brandishing guns, machetes and axes surrounded her house and pulled Helen Rumbali, her sister and two nieces away. They then burnt down the house.

    They say a swarm of fire flies led them from the deceased person's grave to her house - sure evidence they say that she was a sorcerer and was practicing black magic.


    Mobs: Violence is escalating in Papua New Guinea; villagers in February burnt a woman alive, pictured, after accusing her of witch craft

    Helen's older sister and younger nieces were slashed with knives, then released after negotiations with police. But the mob went on to torture the former teacher, in her 40s, and then publicly cut off her head.

    The sickening and heinous act is one of many horrific similar stories coming out from the island, often considered a paradise in the Pacific.

    In February a young woman was stripped by angry armed villages, tied up and burnt alive. Her crime? Allegedly more black magic.



    The beautiful tropical island, which was only discovered by the western world in the 1930s, is a complex mix of ancient tribes and western industrial influences, from the gold rush period and more recently, mining.

    But for tribes people still living by ancient social rules, violence, as opposed to dialogue, is the most common means of problem solving.

    Speaking to the Mail Online, Dr Nina Rajani, a former Medicines Sans Frontičres volunteer who worked in a hospital clinic in Papua New Guinea, said violence was so bad, she was unable to leave her house at night.




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    Think the Swedes are questioning the value of multiculturism?

    Unrest in Stockholm’s suburbs continued for a fourth night as rioters showed their anger over a police shooting a week ago by setting fire to cars and buildings and pelting emergency workers with stones.

    As many as 30 cars burned in the Swedish capital’s southern suburbs, while 11 were set alight in the Husby area, north of the city centre, where the violence broke out four days ago, police spokesman Kjell Lindgren said by phone today. Police detained one person, a 16-year-old girl suspected of preparing an act of arson. That followed eight arrests since Tuesday.
    “While the situation has become better in Husby, where a lot of local people have become engaged to calm things down, the situation has intensified on the southern side of the city,” Mr Lindgren said.




    “We’re hoping that there will be moderation also in the southern parts but we will continue to show our presence in the suburbs with strengthened resources.”

    The unrest started May 19th in Husby - an area constructed in the 1970s and dotted with high-rise apartment blocks - about a week after police killed a 69-year-old man brandishing a knife.

    Sweden, where immigrants bear the brunt of Scandinavia’s highest unemployment rate, has suffered similar bouts of unrest before. In 2008, rioters in Rosengaard in the southern city of Malmoe clashed with police after setting fire to cars and bins.

    Those riots also spread to Stockholm’s Tensta and Husby suburbs. Last night, firemen trying to rescue a restaurant in Skogaas were attacked by stone-throwing youths. Police officers were also attacked in Husby.

    Several other suburbs also reported vandalism and fires.

    Three police officers suffered minor injuries from rocks, Mr Lindgren said. None of them required hospital care, he said. In Raagsved, 11 people were also detained before being taken away in police buses.

    Police are working to identify more rioters, many of whom were masked. There were similar scenes on Tuesday, when about 30 cars were set on fire in some of Sweden’s most ethnically diverse suburbs, also including Norsborg and Vaarberg.

    A Husby school and a cultural centre were set alight while bins burned across other suburbs. A school was set on fire in Skaerholmen and a police station and buildings in central Jakobsberg were vandalised. The average age of people arrested on Tuesday was about 20, police said. Unemployment is higher among immigrants in Stockholm than residents born in Sweden.

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    More wonderful multiculturalism from the UK:

    A gang of 20 hooded youths stormed a pub after the Champions League final before dragging away a 25-year old man and stabbing him to death in scenes 'like a horror film', friends said today. 'True gent' Luke Fitzpatrick was killed and his father Bernard, who threw himself on top of his son in a desperate attempt to shield him, remains in a critical condition in hospital after being stabbed four times. The pair were attacked when a gang armed with bats and knives stormed the north London pub after father and son had watched Chelsea win the cup together at on Saturday.... 'There were about 20 young black guys all with their hoods up armed with sticks and bats and knives. They just ran in the pub and started trying to attack people. It was really frightening. But it should not have happened to Luke, it shouldn’t have happened to anyone, but he was a complete innocent.'

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    I'm not sure how to help you because the difference between civilized and uncivilized is pretty easy. Does this seem civilized or uncivilized to you?
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2...murder-capitalLatin America is riddled with crime, and no place is more violent than Honduras. It has just 8 million people, but with as many as 20 people killed there every day, it now has the highest murder rate in the world.

    It would be easy to blame drug trafficking. Honduras and its Central American neighbors have long served as a favored smuggling corridor for South American cocaine headed north to the U.S.

    But there are a number of factors that have contributed to Honduras' out-of-control killings. It involves not only geography but gangs and a government teetering on the edge of collapse.


    In this violent country, the most violent city is San Pedro Sula, where more than 1,200 people were killed last year.


    The outskirts of town are the roughest part. We were told that the safest time to drive there is in the early morning when the gangs are still asleep.
    As we enter the neighborhood of Rivera Hernandez, our driver tells us we should roll down our tinted windows so that people can see us. If they can't get a glimpse of us, it will make them more suspicious.
    He also crosses himself a couple of times as we enter the colonia, or neighborhood.
    Gangs fight viciously for territory here. Caught in the middle are residents who pay them so-called taxes, for everything from a safe bus ride to running a small shop.

    I've been to Honduras twice, many years ago, last time 1994. Most of the people that live a rural life are friendly, respectful, and go about their business, same with 98% of those in the cities. It's the 2% of the population that are causing all the problems, as crime and drugs are a cheaper way to make money, and violence carries instant respect.

    Urban Honduras is exactly like Chicago or Detroit with 900 plus murders per year.

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    And here in the U.S.:

    Three beheadings in two different states and they happened here in the United States, not Mexico.

    Former DEA supervisor Phil Jordan says all three beheadings have cartel written all over them. They happened in Arizona and Oklahoma in the past year.
    A murder mystery is now unraveling on a stretch of North Reservation Road in Tucson, Ariz. County workers found a headless man lying on the side of the road Jan. 6. The man's hands and feet were reportedly missing, too.

    "It would lead me to believe the message wanted to be sent. This is one of the ways they do it in Mexico, Colombia and other places," says Jordan.

    Jordan says the cartels are getting bolder in carrying out their beheadings across the border. He says we only used to see these crimes in Mexico.
    "They don't have any borders," says Jordan.
    More than 600 miles from the border, a 19-year-old human trafficking victim was found beheaded in Oklahoma. Carina Saunders was stuffed into a bag and left in a grocery store parking lot.

    "People know if they get on the wrong side of the fence, they'll be dealt with," says Jordan.

    The police chief in the area says two men running the trafficking ring killed Saunders to send a message to the other victims. Jordan says the cartels' calling card is all over this case. Trafficking and smuggling are their top moneymakers. Revenge is the price of doing business.

    "Definitely a cartel hit," says Jordan.

    Investigators in Chandler, Ariz., say cartel operatives came from Mexico to kill 38-year-old Martin Alejandro Cota Monroy. His beheaded body was found in his apartment.

    "One is too many; two is too many. Three should send an alarm," says Jordan.

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    There's also some action in Milwaukee. The media refuse to report it, but you can probably guess that it isn't gangs of Mormons.

    Police Investigating Multiple Beatings Near State Fair Park

    Local law enforcement agencies are investigating several incidents near State Fair Park late Thursday night.

    Milwaukee police said that around 11:10 p.m., squads were sent to the area for reports of battery, fighting and property damage being caused by an unruly crowd of "hundreds" of people. One officer described it as a "mob beating."

    Police said the group of young people attacked fairgoers who were leaving the fair grounds. Police said that some victims were attacked while walking. They said others were pulled out of cars and off of motorcycles before being beaten.

    Milwaukee police said at least seven people were taken to area hospitals with non-life-threatening injuries. They said that number could go up as other responding agencies release information.

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