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10-02-2013, 10:18 AM #81
Except it's a law.
just because it is a law, it does not make it a poorly executed, poorly planned out, and overall pile of junk.
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10-02-2013, 10:27 AM #82
You said "Isn't this already constitutional law?" and I answered that it wasn't. Then Madman and JustAlex came in declaring that I was wrong because SCOTUS said it was. Then I had to clarify for them the difference. If you look at my response to you (post #35), I did not got into the difference between Constitutional law and something being declared Constitutional. I did that in post #43 in which I specifically quoted JustAlex and MadMan.
It isn't "flipping the chessboard". One side presented a law with flaws and in this case, controlled all three branches of the government and rammed it through even though 2/3rds of the population opposed it. Forcing something down the throats of the American people that they do not want is not called a checkmate, it is called tyranny.
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10-02-2013, 10:28 AM #83
Same scenario. The Democrats keep trying to "flip the board" on immigration laws rather than just go along with them and support enforcing them.
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10-02-2013, 10:29 AM #84
I love how people rip the ACA. No bills that get passed are ever perfect, especially bills of this magnitude. Your system of government ensures that. If the GOP would show the least little bit of co-operation on this law you might begin to correct the things that prove unworkable. Unfortunately, the GOP is still in their "everything Obama does is wrong" mode, so nothing can realistically be re-worked. This never ending lack of co-operation from the GOP is exactly why the bill was rammed through with little to no debate because the GOP were dead set against anything proposed.
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10-02-2013, 10:31 AM #85
A law was passed, like it or not.
The Republicans don't like it, So they're shutting down the government. Michelle Bachman has said this is the exact outcome they wanted.
The Republicans are flipping the board. You're trying to negotiate on a law that is ALREADY PASSED.
Republicans claim to LOOOOVE the process, but when it doesn't go their way *FLIP*
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10-02-2013, 10:33 AM #86
At what point did the government get shut down over immigration?
The Republicans need to realize this is already passed.
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10-02-2013, 10:37 AM #87
That's great. Duane railed on me for "constitutional law" so I'm going to go on a semantics rant like him and shout A BILL AND A LAW ARE DIFFERENT THINGS!
But only once so as to not take up multiple posts with the same semantics.
But yeah, a bill isn't a law.
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10-02-2013, 11:18 AM #88
If liberals were trying to provide free everything for illegal aliens by passing a law that did so while not properly providing for it's funding or implementation then the same shut down would occur. Perhaps if Spendocrats could come up with a plan that doesn't involve taking more money from the working class and wealthy and causing people to lose their jobs to give more freebies to the unemployed and poor then it might be more successful.
The Democrats need to realize that gun rights is Constitutional law and already passed. The Democrats need to accept that the Defense of Marriage Act is already passed. The Democrats need to realize that the Immigration and Nationality Act already passed. Yeah, yeah, I know, the liberal double-standard allows them to choose to attack laws that they disagree with while arguing that laws they support should be allowed to stand free of any challenge or scrutiny. Sorry, not gonna happen.
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10-02-2013, 11:22 AM #89
How do we know how "bad" it is if it hasn't even come into full effect?
The GOP don't really know how good or bad it is, they just don't like it for partisan reasons.
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10-02-2013, 11:26 AM #90
What percentage of Americans are for harsher background checks? I'm not sure, but I do believe it's somewhere in the 90s. Constitutional law or regular law, the people are saying what they want, yet no one is stopping government over that.
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Originally Posted by Wickabee 
