Hobby Lobby Wins!

[maccards44]

You don't see the difference between birth control and heart transplant?

Medically speaking... Nope. They are both things doctors prescribe to fix medical problems and are covered (until the other day) by insurance.
The birth control pill is used by doctors to treat many disorders and diseases, NOT just prevent pregnancy. Google "medical reasons for using birth control" and then tell me again why those women shouldn't get their medicine.

[deansayso]

Fair enough... and Hobby Lobby and these other companies that are getting around the law because of their religious views are going to start that stipend right away right? right? Will it be a cash bonus? a gift card? Let's hear some specifics about how this employer is going make up for the fact they aren't going to cover a medically accepted procedure that 100% of other insurance covers...

How about the fact they just raised their minimum wage to $14 an hour for full timers?

[maccards44]

And if Hobby Lobby is so against abortion and certain types of birth control, then why does their employee 401K invest in companies who produce contraceptive and abortifacient drugs?

Same reason they should provide access to birth control. The 401k is part of your compensation as an employee (just like insurance, see my related post) and as such it's YOUR money in the 401k and it should be invested in anything YOU the employee want to invest in. My employer shouldn't be deciding where I can or can't invest MY retirement savings (or my doctor's treatment of me) Why is the supreme court giving employers SO MUCH SAY in their employees life's? Abortion/Sex/Birth Control/Lady Parts aside... why is the supreme court siding again and again with companies OVER people?

[maccards44]

How about the fact they just raised their minimum wage to $14 an hour for full timers?

All the companies did? really? That's a pretty good start then!

[deansayso]

All the companies did? really? That's a pretty good start then!

Yeah they pay full timers $14 and part time 9.50. I'm assuming only the full time employees are the ones who are affected by the insurance as well.

[sanfran22]

Medically speaking... Nope. They are both things doctors prescribe to fix medical problems and are covered (until the other day) by insurance.
The birth control pill is used by doctors to treat many disorders and diseases, NOT just prevent pregnancy. Google "medical reasons for using birth control" and then tell me again why those women shouldn't get their medicine.

First off, I believe 16 birth control options exist in the plan. Secondly, it is not remotely the same as a heart transplant. Third, no one said the women can't have there medicine, they just need to purchase it themselves. I'm sick of this war on women garbage.

[sanfran22]

Same reason they should provide access to birth control. The 401k is part of your compensation as an employee (just like insurance, see my related post) and as such it's YOUR money in the 401k and it should be invested in anything YOU the employee want to invest in. My employer shouldn't be deciding where I can or can't invest MY retirement savings (or my doctor's treatment of me) Why is the supreme court giving employers SO MUCH SAY in their employees life's? Abortion/Sex/Birth Control/Lady Parts aside... why is the supreme court siding again and again with companies OVER people?

I'd imagine you would be free to take what you would put in the companies 401k plan to a private investor if you desired. Just like you can go get a different health plan if you have a problem with the one offered. I think Barack has a few options available...

[mrveggieman]

First off, I believe 16 birth control options exist in the plan. Secondly, it is not remotely the same as a heart transplant. Third, no one said the women can't have there medicine, they just need to purchase it themselves. I'm sick of this war on women garbage.

Hobby lobby is not ran by doctors and should not be in the business of making medical decisions as far as what is good enough for them to cover and what is not.

[sanfran22]

Hobby lobby is not ran by doctors and should not be in the business of making medical decisions as far as what is good enough for them to cover and what is not.

Hobby lobby as a business, is deciding what they want to pay and not pay for. They can do as they please.
Take the religious aspect out of it. They should be able to offer any plan, or no plan if they choose. It's their company not yours.

[sanfran22]

All the companies did? really? That's a pretty good start then!

Why not just bring the gov't in and force them to pay 20.50 an hr?