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  1. 06-30-2014, 01:54 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    Everyone does have a choice and they opt to work in the best situation they can find.

    My point exactly. At that particular moment their best situation for employment may have been hobby lobby.
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    But it's not about what they can afford. Plus aren't they paying premiums for their health care? Is it totally free? My employer has a health plan but we pay premiums on that. Not sure if it's the same for Hobby Lobby employees. To me this isn't about people wanting something for free. It's about corporations using a religious belief to get a loophole around laws. Whether it's healthcare related is immaterial. Hobby Lobby was granted a loophole of not providing something to an employee that every other companies have to provide. How do you stop any other corporation from doing the same thing within any other realm whether or not it's healthcare or not.

    I don't think it is about wanting something for free and before obamacare tried to force it, it was not an issue.
    I am not sure if they pay a portion for HC or not, I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post
    My point exactly. At that particular moment their best situation for employment may have been hobby lobby.

    Then pay for your own birth control for a little while until you find something better. I paid $28,000 out of pocket for my healthcare last year, so I have little sympathy for this hardship argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    Then pay for your own birth control for a little while until you find something better. I paid $28,000 out of pocket for my healthcare last year, so I have little sympathy for this hardship argument.

    Some people don't even make that much in a year. If they pay that for healthcare how do you expect them to eat and put a roof over their head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post
    Some people don't even make that much in a year. If they pay that for healthcare how do you expect them to eat and put a roof over their head?

    Simple. The Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlzinck View Post
    I'm just wondering if this law is what lead to the suit and the "win" by Hobby Lobby.
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s331

    @jlzinck....unfortunately my thread was closed, but I want to respond to the last thing you said there...

    I don't have any "pro-abortion" friends because I don't know anyone who is "pro-abortion"....I know plenty who are pro-choice though.

    And I would make the argument that I always make....I'm not "pro-smoking" because I find cigarettes utterly disgusting...but I am pro-choice for you to smoke all the cigarettes you want because even though I don't like it that doesn't mean I should force others to dislike it as well.

    And also, thankfully (especially on a day like today) I am more and more glad that I was not born a woman....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAlex View Post
    @jlzinck....unfortunately my thread was closed, but I want to respond to the last thing you said there...

    I don't have any "pro-abortion" friends because I don't know anyone who is "pro-abortion"....I know plenty who are pro-choice though.

    And I would make the argument that I always make....I'm not "pro-smoking" because I find cigarettes utterly disgusting...but I am pro-choice for you to smoke all the cigarettes you want because even though I don't like it that doesn't mean I should force others to dislike it as well.

    And also, thankfully (especially on a day like today) I am more and more glad that I was not born a woman....

    Only in Alex's world does one compare Abortions to Smoking Cigarettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GroundSupport View Post
    Only in Alex's world does one compare Abortions to Smoking Cigarettes.

    I....nah....I'm not gonna bother, if you don't get it, you don't get it...
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    I guess I don't get it. I mean being against killing babies and being highly against it, is no different then not liking smoking, and being highly against it? Hell yes it is different. Apples to Oranges in the grand scheme of things. Same concept, but two drastically different issues.
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    i dont like the fact that religious doctrine is playing a part in u.s. law,today the christians are all yeeaa,but tomorrow when the muslims or scientologist are trying to do the same i think their attitude will change
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