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    yep

    i have already said my piece and enjoyed reading all the other comments. it is obvious we all have opinions, but this is for mikesilvia.

    i was thinking of growing autographed football cards, or how about growing some brains to sell to politicians and some coaches and GMs.

    ITEM----marv levy is stepping down as GM of the bills after about 2 years. really hate to see that as he took a perfectly good 8-8 team and turned in into a 9-7 team. WAY TO GO MARV. ranks right up there with losing 4 superbowls.

    oh yeah, can you tell i like the bills?

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    Where's Favre in all the QB talk? He won a Super Bowl and got to another with...get this...Dorsey Levens at RB, Antonio Freeman at WR, and Mark Chumura at TE. That's not exactly HOF material. He has put up the most everything of any QB in history, and has not missed a start for 17 years. Also passed for 3,000 yards 16 consecutive seasons with his best receiving corps coming in the last 2 years (Driver/Jennings).

    BTW...Best Running Back is Barry Sanders. If he plays 5 more years he gets 20,000 yards. Also made the (if I remember correctly) the 1992 NFC Championship game against the Redskins with no team at all.

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    Rocky Bleier
    is my pick. He was an incredibly determined athlete when the Steelers picked him late in the 1968 draft. Before he could prove himself as a rookie, he was drafted again - this time, for combat duty in Vietnam.

    A few months later, crippled by enemy rifle fire and grenade wounds in both legs, Bleier faced his biggest challenge. He could barely walk... he certainly couldn't run. To ever play professional football seemed impossible. It took two year battle to overcome his injuries and return to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    Now did any of these other guys do that?

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    Look you just can not place LT even in the same catagories as Brown and Sanders. When his career is over then we'll talk but until then, no. As far as saying "oh the game has changed" simply put, no it hasn't. The running back still gets handed the ball and is still expected to pick up yardage, same today as then. I believe as an all around RB Sanders is tops. Numbers are numbers but watching Barry juke a fool in the grass was watching a master teaching art. Who? Who I ask, could run with Barry? No one.

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    when did making someone look like a fool qualify as being best RB? I wont even argue barry sanders was more elusive then LT...but being most elusive doesnt qualify as being best RB...everything together qualifies as that.

    Mike Vick made defenders look like foolish...he certainly isnt the best QB ever...

    As for your theory of the game not changing...defensive schemes have changed and continue to get better each year, the overall talent level has changed, penalties and rules have changed...to say nothing has changed since the 50s...i cant even understand that...sure the concept of the game is still the same, but a lot has changed.

    To add another stat...just saw this today

    Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson became the first player since Barry Sanders in 1994 to finish a season with more than 300 touches and no fumbles.

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    Elusiveness does not make the best RB nor does the stats you keep throwing out, if so Emmitt has all the stats you need. Plus Sanders rushed for over 2000 yards in a season has LT, Smith, Payton or Brown ever done that? Stick LT in the backfield of the 90's Lions and let him rush for 2000 + yards and make everyone look a fool, then tell me the game has changed. Rules have changed, players have changed, stadiums have changed, schemes have changed, football has not. It's still about putting the ball in the end zone.

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    My top three running backs of all time would have to be:

    1. Jim Brown
    2. LaDainian Tomlinson
    3. Barry Sanders

    And I just want to say this being a Cowboys fan, If I had to make a top 10 list of Running backs, I don't think I would even have Emmitt in my top 10...

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    And I just want to say this being a Cowboys fan, If I had to make a top 10 list of Running backs, I don't think I would even have Emmitt in my top 10...

    Why not?
    If people can list Tom Brady as one of the best QBs ever with his OL giving him all day to throw, why hold the fact that Emmitt had a great OL against him? And Emmitt was as durable and tough a RB as you'll ever see.
    I see people say on here all time that stats don't lie...well...Emmitt is the all-time leading leading rusher.
    Just my opinion...

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    Barry, through and through... Imagine if he had not lost the passion thanks to the lunkhead Lions organization....Better yet, imagine him in Dallas running behind the bulldozer line of the 90's. Every run would be 50+ yards but with him still being caught on the 4 yard line....

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    Look you just can not place LT even in the same catagories as Brown and Sanders. When his career is over then we'll talk but until then, no.

    Why not? Jim Brown payed 9 seasons and LT has played 7. Jim Brown played in 12 and 14 game seasons and LT played in 16 games seasons.

    LT - 2,365 Attempts
    Brown - 2,359 Attemps

    Since they have the same amount of carries, why can't we compare?

    In the same amount of attempts:

    LT: 115 Rushing TDs
    Brown: 106 Rushing TDs

    Fumbles:

    LT: 24
    Brown: 57

    Brown fumbled the ball more than twice as much as LT!

    Brown has more yards than LT with the same amount of carries because he had a better yards per carry average and that is where Jim Brown shines. This is where I think Jim Brown separates himself from all other RBs. His lifetime average was 5.2 yards per carry and in 1963 averaged a whopping 6.4 yards a carry and 133 yards per game!

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