Gun control

[souperman79]

Hunting? Too bad; humans have evolved to the point where they don't need it.

Have you ever had venison? Wild turkey? Elk? No hormones, lean meat, very tasty. Also with the price of meat in the store, I can get it for FAR cheaper by harvesting it myself. As the economy gets worse I know I will be able to put food on the table for my family to eat. Also, here in Wisconsin, where the some of the most Whitetail deer are harvested during the hunting season, the state offers a donation program that helps feed people that can't afford food. What does that say about not needing to hunt? Hunters and LAWFUL gun owners give back. To say we have "evolved" to the point we don't need hunting is an ignorant statement.

A quote from the Wisconsin DNR Website:

"Since the fall hunting season of 2000, hunters have donated over 63,200 deer which have provided over 2.8 million pounds of ground venison to needy families. A large network of volunteers including sports groups, church groups, civic organizations and food pantry staff work together to distribute the meat from the processor to the food pantries. USDA - Wildlife Services staff, Dept. of Natural Resources staff and county wildlife damage staff also help administer the program. Hunt For The Hungry, headed by Lee Dudek of northeast Wisconsin, is also a strong partner in the Wisconsin Deer Donation 2008 program."


Also hunting is a great source of revenue here in Wisconsin. It brings in fees from the sale of hunting tags, resident and non resident. People come from all over to hunt Wisconsin. Once again taking guns away will not solve the problem. Criminals will find a way to do what they want. Read the Second Amendment again, and see that our Supreme Court agrees with it.

[Aikman_TheGreat]

Have you ever had venison? Wild turkey? Elk? No hormones, lean meat, very tasty. Also with the price of meat in the store, I can get it for FAR cheaper by harvesting it myself. As the economy gets worse I know I will be able to put food on the table for my family to eat. Also, here in Wisconsin, where the some of the most Whitetail deer are harvested during the hunting season, the state offers a donation program that helps feed people that can't afford food. What does that say about not needing to hunt? Hunters and LAWFUL gun owners give back. To say we have "evolved" to the point we don't need hunting is an ignorant statement.

A quote from the Wisconsin DNR Website:

"Since the fall hunting season of 2000, hunters have donated over 63,200 deer which have provided over 2.8 million pounds of ground venison to needy families. A large network of volunteers including sports groups, church groups, civic organizations and food pantry staff work together to distribute the meat from the processor to the food pantries. USDA - Wildlife Services staff, Dept. of Natural Resources staff and county wildlife damage staff also help administer the program. Hunt For The Hungry, headed by Lee Dudek of northeast Wisconsin, is also a strong partner in the Wisconsin Deer Donation 2008 program."


Also hunting is a great source of revenue here in Wisconsin. It brings in fees from the sale of hunting tags, resident and non resident. People come from all over to hunt Wisconsin. Once again taking guns away will not solve the problem. Criminals will find a way to do what they want. Read the Second Amendment again, and see that our Supreme Court agrees with it.

Very good post. Good info.

[Yanksfan396]

You shouldnt make others suffer just because you dont find something enjoyable.

Am I making you suffer? What's more, would you suffer if you couldn't kill an animal?

some people think collecting pieces of cardboard with athletes pictures on it is pretty pointless.

So, by relation, we'd suffer if we didn't have cards? Sorry, but I'm not part of that moronic demographic. In fact, I don't think anyone is.

Hunting is not just an American past-time, but something we've done since the beginning of time.

I already addressed the evolution of hunting. Killing isn't a pastime, not in my country.

Sorry if you dont like it, and if you feel threatened by hunters.

I'm not an animal. Why should I be threatened?

As long as criminals have guns, we should too.

Crap, I should have mentioned that criminals aren't exempt from gun-banishment. Sorry, I realize that it's not implied at all.

all you're trying to do is take guns away from the ones you SHOULDNT be worried about.

Again, I know it's hard to understand, but criminals wouldn't be allowed to carry guns. I'm sorry I didn't clarify this. I know, it's a VERY confusing concept.

[ensbergcollector]

Am I making you suffer? What's more, would you suffer if you couldn't kill an animal?



So, by relation, we'd suffer if we didn't have cards? Sorry, but I'm not part of that moronic demographic. In fact, I don't think anyone is.




I already addressed the evolution of hunting. Killing isn't a pastime, not in my country.




I'm not an animal. Why should I be threatened?



Crap, I should have mentioned that criminals aren't exempt from gun-banishment. Sorry, I realize that it's not implied at all.



Again, I know it's hard to understand, but criminals wouldn't be allowed to carry guns. I'm sorry I didn't clarify this. I know, it's a VERY confusing concept.

1, feel free to address either of the 2 previous posts. also, how in your magical world do we keep criminals from having guns? They aren't supposed to have them now but they do. There is no way to regulate what you don't know about. The only way drugs are confiscated is when people are caught with them. The same would be true of guns.

[Yanksfan396]

That's faulty logic. How do you document guns owned illegally? They stolen, obtained off the black market, etc....they don't have registries you sign when you pick one up. The only documentation possible would be for people who purchased their guns legally. And that's the whole point...it's easy to document, register, regulate, and if it comes to it, take away guns of law abiding citizens, but it's nearly impossible to do so for criminals. The only time you get guns of criminals is if they're caught using them, which happens now anyway.

It's not faulty logic. You know why? Because I already explained myself, yet you simply missed it. These illegal owners would be fazed out. Gun-banishment won't just happen *snap* one day; rather it'll take decades.

[Yanksfan396]

[QUOTE=ensbergcollector;4261087]The balance of wildlife for centuries has been balanced out through hunting. No hunting would do more damage to the enviroment then any drilling for oil could. [QUOTE]


So we deserve to be here more than animals do? I know this is against your beliefs, but we're no different. The only difference between humans and animals is the route of evolution. Why does this make us better?

[ensbergcollector]

[QUOTE=Yanksfan396;4261378][QUOTE=ensbergcollector;4261087]The balance of wildlife for centuries has been balanced out through hunting. No hunting would do more damage to the enviroment then any drilling for oil could.

So we deserve to be here more than animals do? I know this is against your beliefs, but we're no different. The only difference between humans and animals is the route of evolution. Why does this make us better?

you comment in no way responds to my post. It is in the best interest of the entire ecosystem and enviroment for hunting to continue.

[Yanksfan396]

To say we have "evolved" to the point we don't need hunting is an ignorant statement.

Is it? Would you die if you didn't hunt? Is there no other way to kill an animal (if, of course, it is 100% necessary)? No, and no. Again, we've evolved to not need it. To claim otherwise transcends ignorance and enters the realm of sheer narrow-mindedness.

[Aikman_TheGreat]

Am I making you suffer? What's more, would you suffer if you couldn't kill an animal?



So, by relation, we'd suffer if we didn't have cards? Sorry, but I'm not part of that moronic demographic. In fact, I don't think anyone is.




I already addressed the evolution of hunting. Killing isn't a pastime, not in my country.




I'm not an animal. Why should I be threatened?



Crap, I should have mentioned that criminals aren't exempt from gun-banishment. Sorry, I realize that it's not implied at all.



Again, I know it's hard to understand, but criminals wouldn't be allowed to carry guns. I'm sorry I didn't clarify this. I know, it's a VERY confusing concept.

#1. I (and many other Americans) enjoy hunting. Why take that away from us?

#2. I wasnt saying we'd "suffer", I'm just saying its a hobby and something we enjoy. If people disagree with it, who cares? As long as we arent hurting other people. (Which WE (as hunters and legal owners of guns arent)

#3. Hunting has been around forever, and yes in your country too. You do live in the USA right? Just because YOU dont, doesnt mean other people dont.

#4. You shoudlnt be, but you seem to REALLY want to take guns away from hunters. But why? Why take guns away from hunters?

#5. How can you track stolen guns? Please, post back on this on for sure.

#6. How is it confusing that criminals shouldnt carrry guns? I know this. I am for this. But I am not a criminal, but by your logic I shouldnt carry a gun either way.

[Yanksfan396]

how in your magical world do we keep criminals from having guns?

If they're not produced anymore, they'll cease to exist by filtration. It's simple. I'm amazed that this generation cannot even fathom a world without firearms. Something tells me that, at one point in time, maybe, just maybe the human race existed without them. I'm not sure, though, I'll have to do some research.