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12-25-2008, 06:06 PM #1
Was Jordan over-rated?
Before I go to my X-mas party, I want to start a discussion. Personally, I think Jordan was over-rated and over-hyped as a player. He never did anything without Scottie Pippen, who was the second best all-around player at the time in the NBA. His famous "last" shot for 6th Championship included a non-call foul to get wide open. He has not been a good GM. LMK what you guys think.
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12-25-2008, 06:07 PM #2
your throw a bucket of Gas on a fire here lol..
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12-25-2008, 06:14 PM #3
I know man. It just seems to me that many of his achievements were given to him by the NBA. I understand why they did this, because it helped they're marketing. I just like discussing things.LMK people.
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12-25-2008, 06:16 PM #4
I think he was. People have a reverence for him that they usually only reserve for whatever deity they believe in. But everyone who knew him personally agrees that he's an egotistical jerk with a mountain of personal issues and character flaws much bigger than his mountain of trophies.
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12-25-2008, 06:16 PM #5
In a way, the NBA needed a star at the time. I just wish he wouldve stayed retired and not came back multiple times to fail, to me, that hurt his career majorly. Specially when AI crossed him.
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12-25-2008, 06:17 PM #6
I know. I thought that was funny. A.I was too fast for him to foul and get a non-call.
Last edited by drtom2005; 12-25-2008 at 06:20 PM. Reason: typing
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12-25-2008, 07:14 PM #7
Moved to Basketball Chat
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12-25-2008, 07:21 PM #8
Jordan was overrated in his time; people fawned all over him in the 1990s as if he were someone who never did anything wrong.
However, now that we are almost in the 2010s, it's definitely started to level out more. There are a lot of 1990s-born kids on basketball message boards who claim that players in the 1980s and 1990s were somehow immensely slower and less athletic than the superhuman specimens who play now - including old dinosaur Jordan, who played in the 1980s and 1990s "stone ages." These kids also often believe that Kobe and LeBron are better than Jordan.
So, to conclude, Jordan is probably no longer overrated because the average human thinks everything which happened over ten years ago is unimportant, trivial, less than the perfection of their current utopia, and irrelevant to all things current - including Jordan.
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12-25-2008, 07:21 PM #9
Doesn't everyone need another at least decent player to do anything? Malone/Stockton. Kobe/Shaq. Jordan/Pippen. Garnett/Pierce/Allen. Duncan/Parker/Ginobili.
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12-25-2008, 07:22 PM #10
I'll state it now... I'm a biased Jordan fanboy.
To answer your question, I guess it depends. The stats are on wiki and most of us know them anyway. What's hard for me to wrap my mind around when the Jordan-bashing starts are the 2 3-peats, the 72-win season, and his career scoring average with the Bulls. Yeah, he got some calls and missed some shots, but it wasn't like his teams were squeaking by the competition. The non-calls, all the bricks he threw up, and his gambling and drinking problems always get brought up in these discussions. In my opinion, these arguments are what add to the legend.
I love how the AI crossover gets mentioned too. I remember watching it and thinking, "somebody forgot to eat their Wheaties". AI got away with a carrying non-call by the way - just kidding.
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