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04-14-2009, 08:22 PM #31
They didnt know for a fact the buildign was goign to collapse, if they did they wouldnt of had him in it in the first place.
They probaby had a feeling that it could collapse so they got him out just in case
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04-14-2009, 08:42 PM #32
but thats just your hunch techman...
the FACT is that Giuliani didn't say he had a feeling...his exact words were "we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse."
This version of the story is also confirmed by a couple firefighters who told their chief that the OEM (Office of Emergency Management) was saying the buildings were going to collapse.
What about Bush Junior? nobody wants to touch that....
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04-14-2009, 10:16 PM #33
No need to touch it. It was an abvious msitake on his part when he said it. Maybe he saw the 2nd plane hit and when they was telling him something in the classroom was something else, or about the third plane. WE dontt know.
they may of known about a threat that this was going to happen, but they was not involved in it, or ordered it to hapen as some of these people are saying
A couple of the hijackers flew out of Portland Maine airport to Logan, one air port worker was on t oprah or something saig he noticed somehting fishy about them, but did not stop them from baording the plane. HE later comitted suicide.
There wasnt even any reported missing planes untill the one hit the building. How owuld the airforce have time to get to them anyway, if no one had reported missing planes
When theorists argue the jet fuel was not hot enough to melt the towers' steel columns, they are correct. But the towers did not collapse because the steel melted, they collapsed because the columns, already damaged by the jetliners' collision, softened and warped under the heat, until they buckled and the floors collapsed.
As Thomas Eager, a professor of materials science at MIT, told the Washington Post: "At first, I thought it was amazing that the buildings would come down in their own footprints. Then I realized that it wasn't that amazing -- it's the only way a building that weighs a million tons and is 95 percent air can come down."
As for Bush saying he saw the plane hit, he probably was talking about seeign the coverage right after it hit.
I turned the tv on that morning just after it happened, and watch the 2nd plane come in. When the first plane crashed news stations almost immediatly cut to it.
And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."
YEah he saw that one had hit the tower. He never said he saw it live
Mst of what these therorists have to go on is taken peoples quotes and quoting them out of context.
IF you want to believe Bush and our Govt had something to do with 9/11. Go ahead. But your wrong. I bet if this happened on Obamas or Clintons watch not one person would be blaming them. and we would still be blaming a BUSH.
When all else fails blame Bush that seems how most of you think.
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04-14-2009, 11:26 PM #34
alright...first things first
Occasion 1:
President Bush Holds Town Hall Meeting
[CNN, Aired December 4, 2001]
QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?
BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Jordan (ph).
Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."
But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."
Occasion 2:
President Holds Town Hall Forum on Economy in California
[whitehouse.gov, January 5, 2002]
"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..."
He states that he saw the first plane hit the first tower on TV before he went into the classroom. He did not find out about the 2nd plane until Andy Card whispered in his ear. The Naudet Brothers film, one of only two known films to capture the first impact was not released to the public until the morning of Sept 12....the other video was taken in Brooklyn just before entering the tunnel to Manhattan and wasn't released until 2003. Because of this, there was no way for anybody to see the first plane LIVE unless they were in NYC that day, or were in on the plot. There was not even a replay for him to view either, so what is he talking about? Yes all the networks cut in immediately to show the towers, but all they showed for the 15 minutes leading up to the 2nd plane was the hole in the north tower and a lot of speculation.
Bush clearly recalls the exact same story TWICE...it was not an obvious mistake. it was either a blatant lie or he told the truth. I don't see how there is really any other way to interpret that. I can tell you everything about what I was doing on 9/11, who I was with, where I was, etc...you don't just start making stories up about what you were doing only 3 months later.
Second, 8:13 AM was the FAA's last regular communication with Flight 11, and at 8:20 had decided that it was most likely hijacked, but NORAD was not notified until 8:37. I don't know what the response time is for intercepting aircraft, but to say that they didnt know anything until the north tower was hit is just not true.
Lastly...I'm not trying to change anybody's minds here. That won't happen. But I'm pathetic for actually pointing these things out? These are serious questions, but nobody wants to get their hands dirty with 9/11...just forget it and move on. Oh, and I don't have a side in politics....Clinton, Bush, Democrat, Republican....I despise them all equally
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04-15-2009, 01:59 PM #35
No your just crazy and reading too much into things like all the other therorists out there. lol
What he said could easily be said as I had seen that this plane flew into the first building
Some people leave out certain words in there sentencing sometimes, and Bush has been know to do it too.
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04-15-2009, 08:10 PM #36
ok cool....now i'm crazy
it's amazing that this is usually the response I get...i present two verbatim quotes from Bush, and one verbatim quote from Giuliani, and now i'm a crazy theorist...why? this is what they said, not what i said.
if anybody wants to actually explain to me why Bush & Giuliani's comments are irrelevent or how I took them out of context, I'd like to hear it...
I've already stated many times I'm not exactly sure what to believe, but since everybody else seems so sure of what happened, maybe you'll convince me I'm wrong? People are going to believe what they want to believe regardless, but I've never understood the harm in talking about these things.
Nobody on here is refuting the thermite found in the dust. Instead, it's just being dismissed outright with no discussion...why? Is it the chain of custody issue...Is it the scientists aren't credible or knowledgeable?
Why is it taboo to talk about 9.11 from any perspective other than the stance of the official story? If there are unanswered questions, and things that have been ignored altogether, how is it crazy or unamerican to want to know the answers? I'm really looking for some feedback...because I don't get it.
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04-15-2009, 08:37 PM #37
Rumors which they all are, are evil lol. What do ytou thin kfamilies of 9/11 think when they hear all the garbage.
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04-29-2009, 03:53 PM #38
please...a lot of the families want real answers too! The government handed out hush money afterwards and those who didnt take it and sued instead had their cases lumped together and dismissed.
It took 14 months, but there probably wouldn't have even been a formal investigation into the attacks if not for the persistence of 9/11 widows.
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04-29-2009, 09:51 PM #39
For clarification, do you believe that Bush organized 9/11?
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04-30-2009, 09:12 AM #40
I'm not going to answer for Red but I will take a stab at the clarification for you.
In short .. did Bush organize 9/11 ... NO. BUT did Bush and the Bush administration know what was going to happen, IMO yes. In fact I do believe that there is information that will back that claim up, we just may never see it. There were numerous intellegence reports weeks before the attack that were never looked into. George Tenet testified that he warned Condoleezza Rice that an attack was iminent and that he believed she took the warning seriously, but Rice denies this. Rice does state that they were receiving a "steady" stream of intellegence information but she did not believe the attacks were directed or planned to be directed at America.
The most shocking information I have ever came across myself was an interview done with a Jewish filmaker Aaron Russo. Arron Russo was introduced to Nicholas Rockefeller through a female attorney friend that was also friends with Rockefeller. Aaron Russo made a film titled "late as ****" and Rockefeller had seen the film and wanted to meet Russo. 11 months before 9/11 Russo and Rockefeller were on the phone exchanging ideas and takling as friends when Russo say's Rockefeller told him that
"in the near future, there is going to be an event and out of this event we will go to war in the middle east, we will control the oil in Iraq and run piplines through Afghanistan to the Caspian Sea"
Russo was obviously shocked at this at first but after 9/11 he said that he never spoke to Rockefeller again.
Like Red has stated in a few posts ... it's highly doubtful that anythign we or any other person say's is going to change your beliefs on what happened on 9/11 and the weeks and months leading up to 9/11 but the more information is spread the more people will begin to wonder and start to do their own research and draw their own conclusions.
I have no doubt in my mind that our Government is controlled by a shady group of wealthy bankers and business men who have no morals and values when it comes to human life and only care about one thing. Total control!
A New World Order is on the horizon and the things that are going on today are just the tip of an iceberg that has been long buried under the sea it floats in. The more liberties people seceed the better off the Global Elite are.
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