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    So now we don't care what former NBA players and hall of famers say. We don't care what NBA experts say... everyone is wrong and you are right.

    Once again... lol

    Again, what would Magic Johnson know about playing against LeBron? He never did it. You'll find just as many critics of LeBron as you will people that would do anything for him. I'm sorry, I'll never have an opinion aever again.

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    This has been the equation of great players

    All time greats = above average physicality + one of the best work ethic + THE BEST MENTALITY

    Lebron = THE BEST Physicality + one of the best work ethic + below average mentality

    MJ, Magic, Bird, and Kobe all have that.
    And there's no question that all four make up top 10 players of all time.
    As you can see, what makes them the best is not their above average physicality, we've seen the best physicality in Vince Carter and he's no where considered all time top 50.

    In another case, Magic is considered The best physicality but what really put him in top 10 is not his physical nature but his mentality, the killer instinct.
    Strong mentality to replace Kareem as a center in the NBA finals. Enough said.

    Lebron simply has below average mentality, lacks killer instinct that those 4 greats had and led his teammates to multiple championships.

    Again, this is why I do not respect Lebron because he simply is wasting his talent which is the best physicality the NBA has seen since Magic.
    He has the features to be the best in the NBA history, but simply is wasting his talent at this point.

    Also, please do not make an argument based on what lies ahead of him, but what he has done so far. He has 0 rings and this is due to his weak mentality.

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    Lebron averaged 25/8/8 during the 2007 playoffs. Lead his team to a finals appearance with a team full of bench players and 5th man rotation players.

    Eric Snow, Larry Highes, Big Z, Donyell Marshall, Drew Gooden, Verejao, Boobie GIbson, Pavlovic, Pollard, etc.

    Seriously, you say he has never done anything in the playoffs, I submit this as him doing something only one other player in NBA history has done in the playoffs.

    What did LeBron do in the finals? Oh yea...nothing

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    What did LeBron do in the finals? Oh yea...nothing

    22-7-7 against the best defense in the NBA is nothing?

    You have awfully lofty expectations then. Which just proves that you believe he is one of the best out there if you feel that 22-7-7 is "nothing".

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    I also point you to this that was taken during Lebrons time as a Cav.

    http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

    Most shots made? Lebron
    Most shots missed? Kobe

    And then we have "cluthtime" possessions updated through this season.

    http://www.82games.com/CSORT11.HTM

    James looks awfully good for someone who "chokes" alot during this time.

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    22-7-7 against the best defense in the NBA is nothing?

    You have awfully lofty expectations then. Which just proves that you believe he is one of the best out there if you feel that 22-7-7 is "nothing".

    Sure he scored 22 points a game........and it took 22.5 shots per game to do that.

    In the finals he shot 35% from the field, 20% from the 3 point line, 69% from the free throw line, and had 5.8 turnovers per game.

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    Sure he scored 22 points a game........and it took 22.5 shots per game to do that.

    In the finals he shot 35% from the field, 20% from the 3 point line, 69% from the free throw line, and had 5.8 turnovers per game.

    Not to mention, if he's so great and the best, is it crazy to expect more than a 22-7-7 line?

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    I also point you to this that was taken during Lebrons time as a Cav.

    http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

    Most shots made? Lebron
    Most shots missed? Kobe

    And then we have "cluthtime" possessions updated through this season.

    http://www.82games.com/CSORT11.HTM

    James looks awfully good for someone who "chokes" alot during this time.

    Cool, he did that for once in the regular season, we've all seen that before. Get it done when it actually matters, which is the playoffs. He can do anything in the regular season and to me, it means nothing. Be the reaon your team wins a championship, or the season is a failure.

    When LeBron has the ball in crunchtime do you really think he's gonna win you the game? I don't, and the majority of people feel the same. Now when Kobe has it in crunchtime, almost everyone feels like he's about to win the game. It's because Kobe shows up when it's time.

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    Not to mention, if he's so great and the best, is it crazy to expect more than a 22-7-7 line?

    Not crazy at all. We all know he does a great job passing the ball, and he does a good job getting rebounds, nobody questions it. What we all question is him taking over a big game when it needs to be.

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    Cool, he did that for once in the regular season, we've all seen that before. Get it done when it actually matters, which is the playoffs. He can do anything in the regular season and to me, it means nothing. Be the reaon your team wins a championship, or the season is a failure.

    When LeBron has the ball in crunchtime do you really think he's gonna win you the game? I don't, and the majority of people feel the same. Now when Kobe has it in crunchtime, almost everyone feels like he's about to win the game. It's because Kobe shows up when it's time.

    I just showed you stats.. Real legit stats that DISPROVE your point. No Rhetoric, just pure facts. And you still twist it around to prove you are right.

    FACT: During that time period no one made more last second shots then Lebron
    FACT: During that time period no one missed more last second shots then Kobe.
    FACT: During the 2012 regular season (and I can show this for every season he has been in) Lebron has been at the top of all clutch performers.
    FACT: During his 2007 Post season he achieved a very good state line of 22-7-7 with a team that consisted of 0 hall of famers and only a single all-star (Big-Z).

    I know you all want to say he did "nothing" and therefore "choked". But he was on a team that had the WORST roster of any NBA finals team ever. (This isnt verified, but to be honest I can not think of any other NBA finals team in history that had less talent ad justified by all-stars). The fact he took this team to the finals should be proof enough to most people that he is in fact that good.

    Keep brining up rhetoric, but the simple fact is that he does perform. He performs at the highest level possible and exceeds all of his peers in overall performences.

    I shall now await someone brining up how he failed in one stat despite excelling in 5 others.

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