Why all the hate?

[Kutzy]

Yes, you can make that argument but also it is hard to argue that Lebron is the best player in the playoffs.

I have never seen him perform the way he did in the regular season in a 7 game series that puts his team over the top.
His ringless fingers would justify that at this point.

And yes, if he somehow proves that he is the BEST PLAYER IN THE PLAYOFFS, by carrying his team by himself and get a signature win which makes his team to win it all, then it is hard to criticize him at least on the floor.

Every great player who is considered top 10 caliber players of all time has done it and even D-wade has done it before, but not Lebron.....just not yet.

We'll keep this best player in the world argument strictly regular season for Lebron because he is....at least in the regular season.
But playoffs is what really counts. Everyone knows that and even Lebron knows that but apparently he shied away from big stages.
That's why I do not respect Lebron as a player.

Name one good team he was on until last year. Just one and I will concede you the point. He literally carried a sub .500 team (probably a top 5 lottery pick team) into the finals. No other player (outside of Iverson) has done that. Jordan didnt do it, Bird, Magic, Kareem, etc. No one has ever done that.

[Kutzy]

Lebron averaged 25/8/8 during the 2007 playoffs. Lead his team to a finals appearance with a team full of bench players and 5th man rotation players.

Eric Snow, Larry Highes, Big Z, Donyell Marshall, Drew Gooden, Verejao, Boobie GIbson, Pavlovic, Pollard, etc.

Seriously, you say he has never done anything in the playoffs, I submit this as him doing something only one other player in NBA history has done in the playoffs.

[kobe080]

In the end its just this simple.. and I think someone touched on it earlier.

People hate the guy because they hate the guy. They dont have a real reason. They just take certain things and say I hate him because of this but fail to recognize that nearly every player is like that. They will come up with reasons why he isnt this or that. They fail to appreciate what he brings to the game and his true talent. "Realized and unrealized". Whatever the hell excuse that is.

There is no use arguing with a person who has their mind dead set on this and its pointless to keep going on about it. They simply dont like him and nothing will ever change that.

True, I completely agree that it is impossible to change other people's minds.

But as you said, you appreciate what Lebron brings to the game and his true talent, but for me, I don't appreciate him because He FAILS to brings his talent in the playoffs when it matters the most. And that's my reason for saying he is wasting his talent, or has been that way the last 10 years.

Also everyone has their own reasons for hating him and it's hard to change that.
But I completely understand Cavs fans who hate him because of all the drama he created with his Decision.
Lebron meant so much to the whole city and their feeling of devastation is probably unmatched.

[lambeauleap87]

Apparently this guy feels its cool to rape a woman vs. "screwing" the fans

Awesome set of ideal here and shows just how far people reach when hating James.

As well, he IS by far the best playe rin the NBA. Thats not a doubt. im sorry you guys hate him too much to see the light. He is having one of the best if not the best season of anyone of all time. Point blank. No one is close to his level this season or over the past decade. This is not a question to be debated really. Its just the reality.

If you think Kobe or Jordan were never as arrogant as James then you have no clue who those 2 guys were. Jordan was no ambassador anymore then James has been. Jordan was the biggest A-hole in the world on and off the court. His teammates hated him for the most part. Lebrons problem is that he cares and the other 2 didnt give a crap what people thought.

BTW, you 2 even thinking Wade is close to Lebrons level at this point just shows how completely off base with reality your arguments truly are.

Keep making excuses for how he didnt show up in a couple games. Its about the only flaw in his game thats out there and im 99.99% sure that people will still do it even if he wins 2-3 or 4 championships. People will always find a reaon to hate him and not appreciate the fact that you are witnessing one of the greatest of all times play right in front of your eyes.

Reaching? I'm still yet to hear rebuttles to my reaons aside from "You all hate LeBron and he's the best!"

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that he's unquestionably the best, either. Durant and his scoring titles, Dwight and his dominance, Rose and his MVP's, and Wade and his greatness all would like to argue. You can make an argument for any of them. To top it off, Kobe > LeBron over the last decade.

And your argument for Wade being better than Wade is that we're crazy? Lol.

And it's not a couple games...it's anytime he's called upon in the clutch. He's let his whole team down and quit on them so many times that I've lost count. He's not a clutch player. To be the best, or even one of the best, you've got to be clutch. Simply put, LeBron's as un-clutch as they come. If he wins championships, he ran away to do them...there's no respect in that.

In the end its just this simple.. and I think someone touched on it earlier.

People hate the guy because they hate the guy. They dont have a real reason. They just take certain things and say I hate him because of this but fail to recognize that nearly every player is like that. They will come up with reasons why he isnt this or that. They fail to appreciate what he brings to the game and his true talent. "Realized and unrealized". Whatever the hell excuse that is.

There is no use arguing with a person who has their mind dead set on this and its pointless to keep going on about it. They simply dont like him and nothing will ever change that.

I gave you a number of reasons to hate LeBron, not sure what else you want from me.

Lebron averaged 25/8/8 during the 2007 playoffs. Lead his team to a finals appearance with a team full of bench players and 5th man rotation players.

Eric Snow, Larry Highes, Big Z, Donyell Marshall, Drew Gooden, Verejao, Boobie GIbson, Pavlovic, Pollard, etc.

Seriously, you say he has never done anything in the playoffs, I submit this as him doing something only one other player in NBA history has done in the playoffs.

Remember that at that point, Ilgauskas, Gooden, Hughes, etc. were all still quality NBA players. In the playoffs that year, Boobie Gibson played some of the best, most clutch basketball in his life. Thar argument is a moot point...

[Kutzy]

The fact you think those guys were good players makes your argument all the better.. lol
how many all stars between them? Better yet hall of camera like everyone else has had.

So durant can score. Howard can play d. Lebron can do everything and at the highest level possible. Everything durant lacks lebron excells in. Lebrons only downfall is his jumper. Make whatever excuses you want about being clutch but the fact is lebron is the beat premiered defender ever. Magic Johnson has been quited as saying he is the best ever. Lebron is the best passing forward ever. He will go down as a top 10 or 15 passer regardless of position. He is a dominant scorer and will end his career near the most points ever.

Just accept he is one of the greatest players you will ever are in your lifetime and admit that you dislike him because you can't find any major faults.

The rest if what you said makes me laugh too much to even respond to. Wade better then lebron? Lol! Once again the greatest season EVER. And people still want to nitpick. Just shows how unrealistic people are.

Going back to your.. he ran to get a championship. You have your excuse already in hand for when he proves you wrong about being "un clutch". So there is no use in once again bringing up the fact he has never played with a good team and led arguably the worst team in NBA finals history.

[theonedru]

He is having one of the best if not the best season of anyone of all time.

LBJ is great but unless your name is either Oscar Robertson or Wilt Chamberlain then you have not had arguable the best or even one of the season of all time as they pretty much own the top 15 between them.

[lambeauleap87]

The fact you think those guys were good players makes your argument all the better.. lol
how many all stars between them? Better yet hall of camera like everyone else has had.

So durant can score. Howard can play d. Lebron can do everything and at the highest level possible. Everything durant lacks lebron excells in. Lebrons only downfall is his jumper. Make whatever excuses you want about being clutch but the fact is lebron is the beat premiered defender ever. Magic Johnson has been quited as saying he is the best ever. Lebron is the best passing forward ever. He will go down as a top 10 or 15 passer regardless of position. He is a dominant scorer and will end his career near the most points ever.

Just accept he is one of the greatest players you will ever are in your lifetime and admit that you dislike him because you can't find any major faults.

The rest if what you said makes me laugh too much to even respond to. Wade better then lebron? Lol! Once again the greatest season EVER. And people still want to nitpick. Just shows how unrealistic people are.

Going back to your.. he ran to get a championship. You have your excuse already in hand for when he proves you wrong about being "un clutch". So there is no use in once again bringing up the fact he has never played with a good team and led arguably the worst team in NBA finals history.

LeBron is the best perimeter defender ever? I disagree...he's a great defender, but I wouldn't call him that. Quite frankly, I don't care what Magic Johnson had to say. He never played against him.

Everything Durant lacks, Lebron excels in, and LeBron has had the greatest season ever? Well, KD outscored LeBron, outrebounded LeBron, led his team to more wins than LeBron, and averaged a similar amount of blocks and steals, as well as turnovers per game. LeBron holds the lead in assists. So I will never understand why people think LeBron is the clear-cut MVP and had the best season ever. MJ has a number of better seasons, regardless.

I'm not going to argue that LeBron isn't a great player and could very well go down as an all-time great...he's one helluva basketball player. He is the most talented player in the league, but he doesn't turn that talent into the best basketball player. Wade beats him there.

I don't need an excuse for IF he wins a championship...simply put, he took the cowardly way out and ran away to try and win. And he needs to be clutch for more than one game or series to lose the title of "un-clutch." Winning one title ain't gonna do it.

Never played on a good team? He hand-picked those teams in Cleveland and everyone knows it. Those teams weren't nearly as horrible as everyone makes them out to be; that's just an excuse for any LeBron Lover. He ran away from Cleveland because he was about as good at picking talent as Jordan has shown to be.

[Kutzy]

Soooo many typos up there. I hate posting on my phone.
Anyway it comes down to this.

You can hate the guy off the court for whatever reason. If you hate his on the court then you are just blindly hating.

[Kutzy]

So now we don't care what former NBA players and hall of famers say. We don't care what NBA experts say... everyone is wrong and you are right.

Once again... lol

[cgb_orl]

If everyone loved Lebron, you guys wouldn't know what to do with your time.

True or False?

Why do people care so much? Opinions and feelings can differ.