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12-08-2009, 06:08 PM #31
I'm not sure about this deal actually. We traded a good OF prospect and two young pitchers for an offensive CF. Doesn't this pretty much seal Johnny Damon's fate? Why did we trade prospects for a bad defensive OF but a strong bat when we already have a bad defensive OF and a stronger bat in Damon? I don't want Johnny Damon to leave :(
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12-08-2009, 06:09 PM #32
Your pitching isn't anywhere near as good to win a WS by themselves. Outside of Cabrera, you have absolutely no offense now.
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12-08-2009, 06:09 PM #33
I think he's Mike Cameron 2.0 but we wont know till this season most likely...
NY probably just won themselfs a WS ring for 2010 though, they got a guy who can easily hit 40 HRs and steal 30-40 basesHidden Content
Dan LeFevour PC 192/283
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12-08-2009, 06:11 PM #34
Verlander, Porcello as the 1-2, Scherzer 3, 4-5 are still up in the air...
Ordonez finished off well last season, he's no offensive slouch now, come on...
Carlos Guillen was injured last year but since coming to Detroit he usually goes 20 HRs/100RBIs/.300 AVG
Brandon Inge, forget about him, before injuring both knees last year he was tearing the ball up, getting surgery to the knees will help him out...
Detroit still has some offense
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12-08-2009, 06:12 PM #35
oh and i forgot to ask, anyone need a bunch of Granderson cards? lol
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12-08-2009, 06:12 PM #36
He needs to get on base to actually be able to steal bases. Hitting .249 will not cut it. He has only got over 20 stolen bases once. I think he can do much better in the Yanks lineup but still I am not sold on this trade.
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12-08-2009, 06:14 PM #37
True but last season was a career worse for him as far as i can recall...
He has become for patient over the years and is a threat as long as there isnt a lefty on the mound (lol)
Wonder if the Yanks will hit him 1st or 5th....
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12-08-2009, 06:16 PM #38
Verlander is your only solid pitcher. Porcello had a good rookie season, but even then, a lot of pitchers fall back to earth once people actually get a read on him. Scherzer hasn't done anything in the majors yet.
Ordonez/Guillen are both well past their prime, and you know it.
Brandon Inge has never had a good year in his entire career, which would explain his career .230 batting average. He's had a couple 25/80 seasons, but even then, he never even hit .260.
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12-08-2009, 06:18 PM #39
Looking at next year alone, it might not make them better. But they have a lot more long-term financial flexibility at this point while suffering only a relatively minor short-term downgrade from an overall team perspective.
Also, teams need to player to the strengths of their organization and ballpark. For example, take a team like the A's. If their strength is pitching and weakness is hitting, they will win more games by trading a good bat for another good pitcher than if they traded one of their good pitchers for a good bat. It seems counter intuitive, but it has statistical proof behind it. I can't regurgitate all the info I've read on the topic, so I can only give you the general idea. Obviously you can take this theory too far. Teams can only have so many starting pitchers, so trading a good bat for a #6 starter won't help them win more games.
As far as the Tigers are concerned, if their strength was pitching last year and scoring runs was a weakness, they will win more games by upgrading their pitching than if they traded pitching for run scorers. An alternative would have been to stand pat pitching wise and SIGN a bat rather than trade pitching for it, but the team is cutting payroll. The Tigers have upgraded the rotation and really solidified the bullpen going forward. Not to mention they've saved a fair amount of money.
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12-08-2009, 06:24 PM #40
To Chuck, this is an honest question from one Yankee fan to another, not an attack whatsoever, but has Jackson done anything as a professional to make you think he's going to be a great player? From my own perspective, every positive thing about the guy is subjective. Some scouts believe he has all the tools to be a star, but he's had 4-5 years of professional experience, and he has objectively done nothing to make me excited about him as a prospect.
To all in general...
I think the Yankees have to sign either Damon or Bay. As it stands, I'm not comfortable with Granderson at the top of the lineup. I am extremely on-board with the trade, and I'm not one of the Yankee fans trying to belittle Granderson as a player, but I'm not sold on him as a top of the order hitter. I would prefer him hitting in the bottom half of the lineup. Damon makes the more sense than Bay, even though Bay is the better player going forward. If the team can slot Damon into the #2 slot for the next two years, their lineup is going to be flat out ridiculous.
And to the people afraid of Granderson's splits...
Granderson's numbers were skewed, for whatever reason last year, because he hit way more pop flies than he had in his career. That resulted in more HR's and a lower BA and OBP. I think that's a problem that can be rectified. Also, his poor numbers against lefties are over a relatively small sample size. Not saying he's ever going to be even average against lefties, but he won't face lefties too often, and his value against righties cannot be denied. Granderson has been very productive overall and will be a great addition to the Yankees.
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Originally Posted by gladdyontherise 
