Question about the founding fathers

[JustAlex]

OK, all of this is just straight up comical at this point....

[Wickabee]

Lol, from time to time, being the P&R manager is harder than my actual job.


Edit: Wickabee and Habs, I'm going through a presentation at work entitled "The Case for Canada, and there's a stat in here that says Canada is the most educated country in the world. Kudos!"

Well, it was mostly the two of us *blush*

[jessejordan419]

I'm not sure how you missed it but here it is again:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...-nonreligious/

Yeah buddy.....32% according to Gallop are NON-Religious in the U.S....


This will probably be the last response I do to you, because I feel like you're not reading anything and you're just sticking to your ridiculous notions that have ZERO evidence.

The Treaty of Tripoli was signed by JOHN ADAMS who was President at the time and guess what else....he was one of our founding fathers!

While most of our founding fathers were indeed christian they also believed in a SECULAR government and the SCOTUS agrees with that realization.

Seriously bro, read up on this, you'll learn a thing or two.

You are quoting a poll with no significance whatsoever. The poll could easily be skewed in My favor. However, you link the poll to a dissection on an atheist website. I will not read the interpretation of a poll on an atheist skewed website. If you want to link to the actual poll itself, be my guest. I won't be forced to read propaganda of any kind. Show me the actual source.

[pghin08]

You are quoting a poll with no significance whatsoever. The poll could easily be skewed in My favor. However, you link the poll to a dissection on an atheist website. I will not read the interpretation of a poll on an atheist skewed website. If you want to link to the actual poll itself, be my guest. I won't be forced to read propaganda of any kind. Show me the actual source.

So an atheist website is not a credible enough source for you to use, yet a right wing site who in it's tagline says that Barack Obama will be the downfall of America is A-Ok, right?

[Wickabee]

You are quoting a poll with no significance whatsoever. The poll could easily be skewed in My favor. However, you link the poll to a dissection on an atheist website. I will not read the interpretation of a poll on an atheist skewed website. If you want to link to the actual poll itself, be my guest. I won't be forced to read propaganda of any kind. Show me the actual source.

I think if anything is in your favour, it's likely skewed.

[JustAlex]

You are quoting a poll with no significance whatsoever. The poll could easily be skewed in My favor. However, you link the poll to a dissection on an atheist website. I will not read the interpretation of a poll on an atheist skewed website. If you want to link to the actual poll itself, be my guest. I won't be forced to read propaganda of any kind. Show me the actual source.

Um, if you notice on that website they clearly post a link to gallup showing the results of that poll, but if you must have it directly, here you go:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153479/Mi...ous-State.aspx

Also, the poll IS skewed on your favor.....40% of Americans still identify themselves as "Very religious", while another 28% identify themselves as "Moderately religious".


BTW, I consider this poll a better indicative then asking "are you an atheist".....many Americans will NOT admit they are atheist because that term has been VILIFIED by religious people.


However, identifying yourself as "Non-religious" is a lot easier to admit.

[pghin08]

Um, if you notice on that website they clearly post a link to gallup showing the results of that poll, but if you must have it directly, here you go:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153479/Mi...ous-State.aspx

Also, the poll IS skewed on your favor.....40% of Americans still identify themselves as "Very religious", while another 28% identify themselves as "Moderately religious".


BTW, I consider this poll a better indicative then asking "are you an atheist".....many Americans will NOT admit they are atheist because that term has been VILIFIED by religious people.


However, identifying yourself as "Non-religious" is a lot easier to admit.

Eh, I dunno. Most atheists I know have no problem calling themselves such. I think there's a significant difference between being non-religious and being an atheist. I fall under the non-religious category, but I'm far from an atheist. I believe in the existence of deities, I just don't think that any organized religion has it right.

[AUTaxMan]

Eh, I dunno. Most atheists I know have no problem calling themselves such. I think there's a significant difference between being non-religious and being an atheist. I fall under the non-religious category, but I'm far from an atheist. I believe in the existence of deities, I just don't think that any organized religion has it right.

The problem with polls is that you can largely achieve the statistics you seek by manipulating the question or the answer choices.

[pghin08]

The problem with polls is that you can largely achieve the statistics you seek by manipulating the question or the answer choices.

Agreed.

[jessejordan419]

Thank you for once again proving my point. You would rather attack than debate the facts at hand. This is classic deflection by the loser of an argument or debate. This is why obama will lose. He can only attack because he has lost every single argument. You are employing the tactics of a loser.