Mass Immigration - Who Does it Help?

[Wickabee]

This thread reminds me of listening to my German grandfather ranting about Hungarians. Only time he ever shows any sort of racism.

[centrehice]

Hungarians speak better German better than the Germans do. Without slang.

[habsheaven]

Those 47 million immigrants are also consumers. That's a whole lot of economic growth that most countries would love to have. In Canada, we celebrate multi-culturalism, not assimilation.

[Wickabee]

I don't have any numbers to prove it, but I would suggest that Canada's fastest and largest immigrant population is Asian (mostly Chinese) and at least here in the Atlantic province we have a very large Middle Eastern immigrant population. The Celts, Scottish and Irish came before we were a country.

Canada was paying Germans (likely others as well) to come here and work as late as the 1950/60s. My grandfather was one of them. At the same time, yeah, anyone who goes to the Greater Vancouver Area knows that there is major and constant immigration from China, Japan, both Koreas and every other nation in the area. I've lived as far east as Calgary, and it was evident even there, in Canada's Texas. In Toronto, I'm told, there is a HUGE Carribean community that is growing daily. Montreal has neighbourhoods that make Boston's Irish community and New York's Italian community look "cute." Meanwhile Scots, French and Ukranians are scattered throughout the entire country.

[centrehice]

Habs, you still have to remember that UK passport holders can come to Canada for a 1 week visit, and invoke "Landed Immigrant" status, and basically stay forever. We cannot do the same when we travel to the UK.

Certainly the old migration until about 1980 were in the form of UK Landed Immigrant status holders, since their is no Homestead Act any more.

Now, it's like you said, many Asian Immigrants and some from various Middle-Eastern countries. Chinese specifically come to Canada for their children to be educated at a very low cost to themselves. But now with China barging into Middle-Class, they are getting educated and returning to China.

Other Asian immigrants in countries that are not moving with technology in their home countries, remain and become Canadians.

[tpeichel]

German decent would be among the largest, followed closely by Celts in the form or Scottish/Irish. There are more white American immigrants to Canada per year then there are Blacks or Latinos.

For the most part, Canada is not importing people into their society that are from uncivilized countries.

The problem with Americans is that we think that our society is so great that we can pluck a foreigner from any uncivilized society and they will soon adapt our shared belief in individual freedom and liberty.

After 9-11 I remember wondering how the killers could go through with their plan. After living here, didn't they see how wonderful our country was and how precious it was to live in a free society?

The truth is that other societies do not share the same values and beliefs as us and just giving them citizenship is not going to change that.

A small group that does not share a common belief system is not a problem. However, once you get a mass of people with disparate beliefs, that's when a society changes.

[Wickabee]

Hungarians speak better German better than the Germans do. Without slang.

awesome

[Wickabee]

For the most part, Canada is not importing people into their society that are from uncivilized countries.

You need to do two things:
1 - define "uncivilized country"
2 - Go to Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal

[centrehice]

For the most part, Canada is not importing people into their society that are from uncivilized countries.

The problem with Americans is that we think that our society is so great that we can pluck a foreigner from any uncivilized society and they will soon adapt our shared belief in individual freedom and liberty.

After 9-11 I remember wondering how the killers could go through with their plan. After living here, didn't they see how wonderful our country was and how precious it was to live in a free society?

The truth is that other societies do not share the same values and beliefs as us and just giving them citizenship is not going to change that.

A small group that does not share a common belief system is not a problem. However, once you get a mass of people with disparate beliefs, that's when a society changes.

Nope, ...... Canada has had a huge refugee influx over the past 20 years from Africa.


Toronto and Montreal have a more diverse culture of Africans than any two other countries in the Western World. In 2011 Toronto was named the most Cosmopolitan city in the World.

[mrveggieman]

You need to do two things:
1 - define "uncivilized country"
2 - Go to Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal

He dosen't even need to leave the states. He can simply take a visit to South Carolina.