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12-21-2005, 01:34 PM #21
Most snipers put in a bid that is as high as they are willing to go, they just don't enter it until the last few seconds. If your bid is higher, the sniper loses anyway. If you are willing to pay more than your first bid in the first place, then just add the auction to your watch list and bid late. All bidding early does is raise the final price of the auction. The fundamental premise behind auctions is pretty simple, whoever is willing to pay the most (and get their bid in) is going to end up winning the item. Would you rather have ebay run like the big auction houses with the 15 minute rule?
If someone wants something more than you, they are going to win it regardless.
You need look no further than low-pop PSA commons that two or three guys will go after. Every one of them snipes...for many reasons.
1. In the set registry it can get very competitive... the 2 or 3 guys that want a given card will not bid and will only snipe so that other people in competition for the same card do not know that they are looking at it (thereby driving up the price)
2. these same people don't want the seller to see who is bidding on it and perhaps shill the auction, knowing someone needs it for their set and is probably willing to pay any price.
3. Sniping can keep the final price lower than bidding your max (for the reasons named above, and other reasons)
4. in all fairness, a sniper can end up paying a lot more than they would have otherwise. Example, a low-pop 59 Topps common in PSA 8 which SMR's around $150 just sold for $1300. There are 2 copies with none higher, this card was needed by both set collectors. You can bet that they figured they'd get it for <$500 but put in a bid of $1250 to be sure they got it. Problem is, the other guy figured the same but put in a max bid higher than that, just to be sure. Ended up costing him $1300 for a $150 card.
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12-21-2005, 01:35 PM #22
Decide what you are willing to pay for a card and put in your bid. If someone outbids you, that simply means that they were willing to shell out more $$ for the card. Whether they outbid you 2 days before the auction ends or 2 seconds before it ends doesn't matter. The bottom line is that they were willing/able to spend more for the card.
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12-21-2005, 01:38 PM #23
Believe me, I win enough auctions every day on ebay to know how it goes.
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12-21-2005, 01:46 PM #24
Ya When I bid 4 sumthin' real good, I snipe and ussually 3 or 4 other people snipe too.
It's part of what a auction is.
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12-21-2005, 02:25 PM #25
Is this a real thread? Dude, Viking...if you were winning the auction at $2 with 5 minutes to go...and then you decided to change your max to $5...did it ever occur to you that at the same time you were putting your max bid to $5, there could have been SOMEONE ELSE PUTTING IN A BID OF HIGHER THAN $5? It is possible for 2 people on opposite ends of the globe to bid on something at the same time...and furthermore, that's not even sniping! That's someone outbidding you! This is the most ridiculous thread I have ever seen.
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12-21-2005, 02:35 PM #26
Id highly doubt that happening, especially someone jumping it. Everyone wants to get it at the cheapest price possible.
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12-21-2005, 02:36 PM #27
Plus, I had another screen open. I normally keep 2 to see whats going on. And no one had outbid at that point. There was another auction i was watching in another screen ending in 2 minutes while thjat 1 had 5. I just refreshed my bidding / watching pages.
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12-21-2005, 02:58 PM #28
i dont agree with this at all either. im kind of pissed when someone outbids me in the last 2 seconds(like on a $150+ kobe bryant card for $25) but you know what, if i had just put in the MOST i would have paid at the beginning it wouldnt have mattered. this person wanted to pay more for the card at the time of the auction's end, i was trying to get it cheaper. Ive been on both ends of this MANY times, as the majority of the autcions i win and lose occur in the last 30 seconds. Its part of ebay, to prevent it just bid the abolute MOST you would be willing to pay when you bid the first time, like ebay tells you to do. Its not unfair or cheating, its someone wanting to pay more than you
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12-21-2005, 03:01 PM #29
I've done well over 1,000 deals on ebay & most of the time I got mine at the last second, this is how I look at stuff. I like to see if there's things getting ready to end that I want that either have no bids or are low enough that I want to bid on. There's nothing wrong with it, you're just sore because you got outbid is all. Like everyone else has said, if you want something that bad, make your max bid high enough that it won't bother you when someone bids more than you did.
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12-21-2005, 04:11 PM #30
And the sniper software is just a tool. If you use a fork to eat, a car to get to work, or a match to start a fire, then you too are guilty of using a tool.
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