auction snipers

[MikefromChester]

i snipe all the time, but this is the first time ive heard of a sniping assistant, can someone pm how to download this?

http://www.justsnipe.com

I been using these folks for over a year. Been very pleased. They give you 5 a week free, which has been ample enough for me.

Thanks, Mike

[MikefromChester]

If you're willing to pay more then why wait til the last second to place your bid? You're just trying to get it as cheap as possible and without a bidding war.

I use to bid my high offer as I saw things I liked, but after awhile i had way to many things bidded on. So now I'll wait till the last minites incase a BUY IT NOW comes along of the same thing. But the main reason I started snipping was the fact there are sellars who shell bid and if I bid on it myself or use somekind of service when I'm not around to bid in the last few seconds, they don't have time to shell it up


Thanks, Mike

[arborwolf]

... But the main reason I started snipping was the fact there are sellars who shell bid and if I bid on it myself or use somekind of service when I'm not around to bid in the last few seconds, they don't have time to shell it up.

Explain "shell bid," please?

Thanks.

[atrain2004]

shill bid is when you either have another account with a different user name setup or you are having a friend of yours bumping the bid. Ebay views this as a reason for banishment or suspension.

[arborwolf]

Thanks for the prompt response.

Cheers,
Arbor

[vikingfan101]

Ya, I think I ran into that shill bid today. Was bidding on a Culpepper patch winning at 2.00. Guy had only 2 feedback, and a guy with 0 comes along and wins. Could be a new person, I just find it unlikely as the guys auction said the last of the patch i was bidding on sold for 100.

[rayny1]

Explain "shell bid," please?

Thanks.

It`s actually called Shilling(shill bidding). It`s when a seller has an auction up and has multiple accounts to boost the bids up. Or he can ask friends/family to boost the bidding up too. I really don`t see anything all that wrong with this procedure. I really don`t think eBay should take this all too seriously either but they do. If someone has a card up for auction and it books at $100 but the bidding has only gone up to say $5-$10 and this seller doesn`t want to let it go for that amount, then boosting it up to where it is more reasonable or if he/she is happy, then if someone outbids the sellers shill bid so what. I know eBay gets mad because they always say to start the auction at a higher price so they can make the extra $ on the listing fee. It`s all about money for eBay. They don`t want to be ripped off one red cent. Even though the seller shilled his item and it didn`t sell legit, he/she still has to pay for the original listing fee and the final value fee. eBay still makes money. I just don`t see shilling as a serious problem, unlike people getting ripped off with fakes and being mislead by these rediculous 1/1`s.

[S.A.M.]

You DON'T think shill bidding is wrong????!!!!!????

rayny1, shill bidding is dishonest and unethical at best!

It is NOT equivalent to setting a high starting bid or reserve price. It is a scam, plain and simple.

By design, bidding on auctions is for individuals who would like to own the item and they compete for it in a free market environment. If one of the bidders is also the owner (or bidding for the owner) of the item then any bidding they do artificially affects the price, ie. why would the owner try and buy his own card? If this doesn't seem unethical enough read the wikipedia definition of a shill here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

[Craigerman]

If someone has a card up for auction and it books at $100 but the bidding has only gone up to say $5-$10 and this seller doesn`t want to let it go for that amount, then boosting it up to where it is more reasonable or if he/she is happy, then if someone outbids the sellers shill bid so what.

Ebay has a system that isn't scummy set up for this. Its called setting a reserve price. Yes, it costs you like a buck if the reserve isn't met, but they refund you if it is.

Shill-bidding if very wrong and unethical. Rayny1, remind me never to bid on any of your auctions. In my opinion, shill bidding is worse than trying to sell fake patches or 1/1's At least with those auctions, the buyer can control how much they bid, or if they bid at all. Shill bidding is stealing.

[dodger23]

Shill bidding is completely unethical...if you don't like eBay's rules and/or fee structure, then sell your wares elsewhere.

By the way, I had posted earlier that I loathe auto snipers, and I did then, but now that the whole shill bidding argument got thrown into the mix (which makes complete sense to me), then I have reconsidered and now have come over "to the dark side."

Everyone hates being outbid at the last second, but it's the rules, and now that there is more and more shill bidding running rampant on eBay I will auto snipe until I die.