Hobby Lobby Wins!

[mrveggieman]

If people can use religion to discriminate against gays and minorities they can twist it up for anything.

[*censored*]

SCOTUS: where corporations are people, but women are not.

[jlzinck]

I'm just wondering if this law is what lead to the suit and the "win" by Hobby Lobby.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s331

[Star_Cards]

this is the is/ought fallacy in an argument. you can expand on something that is and make up any scenario, but the fact is, it is a made up scenario.

the fact is, these people are employed and have healthcare coverage. they should be able to afford their own BC.

But it's not about what they can afford. Plus aren't they paying premiums for their health care? Is it totally free? My employer has a health plan but we pay premiums on that. Not sure if it's the same for Hobby Lobby employees. To me this isn't about people wanting something for free. It's about corporations using a religious belief to get a loophole around laws. Whether it's healthcare related is immaterial. Hobby Lobby was granted a loophole of not providing something to an employee that every other companies have to provide. How do you stop any other corporation from doing the same thing within any other realm whether or not it's healthcare or not.

[Star_Cards]

SCOTUS: where corporations are people, but women are not.

I also have an issue with this as well. I'm not certain that a corporation is an individual. Isn't the point of becoming a company is to protect yourself from legalities to separate yourself from your company? How can you then be seen as an individual? Seems like you're having it both ways. I'm just not sure though.

[Wickabee]

Boom! I get some free cards!

Didn't see the word "liberal". He could be referring to any group but conservatives.

I'll take those cards.

[tpeichel]

Say I work for a corporation ran by people who refuse to go to doctors based on religious belief. Say I get injured physically in their factory. If they can refuse coverage based off of religious belief it seems like they could get out of covering my injury that happened on their place of business even if their are laws that say they have to. As far as maternity leave, I threw that in since it's in the medical realm sort of... but the main point is who's to say that maternity leave wouldn't go against someone's religious belief. Yes, it's absurd, but just because it's not a part of the major religious beliefs that we are educated on doesn't mean that someone couldn't actually believe this based off of some religion. I think it just opens up a lot of loopholes. Who in this country can or can't deem something to be based off a religious belief? I say no one as we are free to believe whatever we want. A major religion shouldn't be the only one's that can claim something is against their religious belief so therefore it open the door for almost any claim.

Look past the fact that this deals with such a hot topic like Obamacare. We can debate that all day long. The fact is that at the time it is a law. I just don't see religious belief as a valid reason for a company to get out of providing something that is the law, whatever it is. Fight the law all you want but follow it until it's no longer law.

The simple answer is that no one is forcing you to work at that company. If that is the best you can do, then deal with the contract you agreed to.

[mrveggieman]

The simple answer is that no one is forcing you to work at that company. If that is the best you can do, then deal with the contract you agreed to.

People trip me out when they say no one is forcing you to work there. Do you really think if they had a choice that they wouldn't be working somewhere else or better yet sitting on a beach somewhere.

[tpeichel]

People trip me out when they say no one is forcing you to work there. Do you really think if they had a choice that they wouldn't be working somewhere else or better yet sitting on a beach somewhere.

Everyone does have a choice and they opt to work in the best situation they can find.

[JustAlex]

Yeah, this isn't surprising one bit, in fact I expected it by the way SCOTUS has been ruling as of late....

The winners are corporate America who now have precedence to do many unjust things in the name of "Religious views"...

Regligious people might think this is a victory for them, but they probably fail to see the grand picture....oh well.

I'm just glad I'm not a woman I guess....BTW, does Hobby Lobby take care of men's need such as Viagra and Cialis? Oh yeah they do!

So women....too bad for you, you're jut not as important as Corporations.